I never said it was easy. Hence potential PhD level material. On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:54:31 +0400, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote: > Other cores could still launch DMA or even SMI and screw the RT on > your > core. > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, EBo <[email protected]> wrote: >> Core locking programs is part of the state of the art in OS >> research. >> I know that there are Linux variants which are doing this, but it >> will >> likely be awhile before it goes mainstream. Knowing the people I do >> working on this I imagine that it will actually go mainstream. >> >> Making all this work correctly is a non trivial task, and if you >> wanted >> to jump into the middle of this it is likely worth a MS and possibly >> even a PhD in computer architecture. That being said, there might >> be >> some entry level stuff that can be hacked along these lines. >> >> EBo -- >> >> On Mon, 21 May 2012 12:58:40 +0200, Javier Ros wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> What about isolate a core in todays multicore cpu, to do the RT >>> work, >>> using >>> a custom support >>> layer avoiding using linux itself, RTAI or Xenomai? >>> >>> Even ARMs are going multicore today. >>> >>> I presume that you can have the NON-rt running in standard Linux >>> user >>> land, >>> and >>> then communicate through shared memory with the isolated core. >>> >>> I don't know much about the architecture, but I presume that the >>> isolated >>> core can >>> probably generate its own timer interrupts. I presume that the >>> kernel >>> probably can >>> ignore a hardware card like a parallel port and lend its >>> responsibility/ownership to the core devoted to RT. >>> >>> I'm not an expert but it looks like it can not be really difficult >>> to >>> make >>> HAL's >>> RT part to tun isolated on that core. Most setups are using two >>> threads, >>> and lots just one. >>> A custom support layer without RTAI or XENOMAI >>> can be developed. Also I presume that there is some Open Source >>> POXIX like RTOS, that can be easier o use than to develop. >>> >>> Such a philosophy, if possible, will make LinuxCNC pretty >>> independent >>> of >>> linux and even deployable in other contexes. >>> >>> Would standard Linux in such a theoretical setup still ruin the RT >>> performance of the >>> standalone core running LinuxCNC's real time part?. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Javier >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-developers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-developers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
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