On 10/25/2012 1:39 PM, John Thornton wrote: > John > > On 10/25/2012 8:49 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> On 10/25/2012 7:06 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> The wiki also has a ton of out of date pages that show up in google >>> searches and afaik those can only be removed if you have access to the >>> DH account. >>> >>> John >> Are you referring to the old versions of pages that are kept >> automagically by the wiki? If we remove those we lose the ability to see >> what changes have been made over time. >> >> Regards, >> Kent
> But we gain the ability to not confuse people who do a google search for > anything LinuxCNC. If the page content is needed for history it should... > I don't know squat about the underlying wiki software, I just know it works by spawning new pages via links from existing pages and by creating new versions of existing pages. Is it possible going forward to stop Google from searching the "historical documents"? I know when I used my favorite link-checker last year I had trouble stopping it from digging past the current versions of wiki pages. I also know Google keeps past information around for a time so this wouldn't be a perfect solution but it would be a start. > ...be stored some place like git that won't give a google hit for both the > new and the old pages which is totally confusing to someone not in the Using git is an intriguing idea. I have no idea how this could be implemented for a wiki---it seems to me it would have to become more web site than community-maintained wiki---but maybe somebody else does. In my former life I've worked on collaborative projects where "do everything" content management systems were used to drive a web portal but frankly I was not impressed by the amount of administrative work involved. > know. Imagine you know nothing and click on an old outdated page with > instructions that totally won't work... having a fun day... NOT, I'd bet > it is very frustrating to a newbee. John, I try to put myself in the position of a newbie every time I read the wiki, the website, and the docs. That's what motivated me to spend time this winter/spring fixing up a number of wiki pages that were stale/misleading, notably the instructions on installing LinuxCNC. The reality is that I am not qualified to fix/add pages about many of the topics, since I don't run the requisite machinery, drivers, HAL components, etc. Over the past two years, I've posted more than once about the state of the wiki and gotten back the sound of one hand clapping. We have met the enemy and he is us. The wiki contains lots of "pages" we don't normally see. Some are previous versions of existing pages (click on "view other revisions" at bottom of a page). Some are pages that were orphaned when a referencing link was removed elsewhere (try entering various terms in the wiki "search" box sometime; you'll get some surprising hits). In addition, there are files that were uploaded to the wiki but either not used or later orphaned (I have previously asked this list about how to delete some of mine, to no avail). As for the website, I can't edit it so I've posted messages about it. And the docs? I've certainly sent my share of comments to you about them (and I'm getting ready to add my two cents about the section on the comp preprocessor thanks to Andy's query). If everybody did the same for all three LinuxCNC-information sources on the topics they know, we'd be well off. Regards, Kent PS - sorry for trying to reorganize the content of this message. It isn't pretty in this case, but I prefer bottom- or in-posting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
