On 5/17/2013 2:05 PM, Michael Haberler wrote:

> that said, what I am convinced is needed is proper design work on a 
> relational_model_  for the tool miniworld (tools, offsets, spindles, 
> magazines, wear, holders and whatever came up over the years)
>
> <...>
>
> As for an OODB approach - I never understood what that is so I cant comment, 
> but it surely doesnt get us around the legwork designing a bulletproof data 
> model

"My bad" for saying RDB and OODB as a shorthand for the conceptual 
models and methodologies that back the design of RDBs and OODBs.

I could not agree more strongly with the need for proper design. 
Speaking in database-ese, the availability of two different data models 
(relational vs O-O) means one might choose slightly different approaches 
to that design even at the conceptual schema level but certainly will 
choose differently at the logical schema level (ANSI/SPARC defined the 
three-schema approach back in 1975).

This does not remove the need to state clearly the purpose of the 
database and to gather and massage end-user requirements. I think we are 
assuming we've agreed the purpose of "the database" and I'm sure that 
many of Chris Morley's emails contain end-user requirements which need 
to be captured.

Regards,
Kent


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