Steffen,
Our ISO installer uses Debian Live. Freecad seems to be gaining a head of
steam among our users. Perhaps that could be included, Most of the other
stuff our users need is already included. We do install a couple of
external repositories in APT so users can add them if they need them
(Ethercat and Qypyvcp).

There is a long standing bug dating back to Debian 12.1 where
raspi-firmware is installed by Debian Live on AMD64 when it is an ARM
package. We have suppressed this in our ISO but on an apt update, it seems
to be installed again. Debian fixed this bug in 12.2 but it seems the
Debian Live release package still includes this. It would be good to get
this fixed though your friend.

A way to replicate a live image for the Raspberry Pi 5 and 4B would be
nice. Currently we use an external Debian installer forked from
https://github.com/pyavitz/rpi-img-builder

Hope the feedback helps.

Rod Webster
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VMN®
www.vmn.com.au



On Sun, 11 May 2025 at 20:02, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers <
emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> At the Debian "Reunion" in Hamburg last week I ran into Roland Clobus, who
> is one of the maintainers of the Debian Live images. He was very much
> compatible with the idea to have one such image that boots into a real-time
> Kernel and features LinuxCNC. And then he asked me if there was something
> like a Debian Blend that would already accommodate LinuxCNC. Blends are
> lists of packages that are somehow related, so he could auto-prepare an
> image of all those packages together. There is a technical limit at 4 GB if
> I understood that correctly.
>
> That triggered me to add the linuxcnc-uspace binary to
> https://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/engineering. Does not look too
> bad :-) We can change that to the discussed "linuxcnc" package name at any
> time.
>
> Now, "engineering" may be a bit wide, with all those FEM (which may be ok)
> and fluid dynamics (may be superfluous, pun intended) packages coming with
> it. But I thought we should see how this evolves and can come up with a
> separate task like "machine control" or so at any time. But we would want
> all the CAD/CAM tools on it, too. Right?
>
> What is kind of neat with any such live image is that they have an
> additional install-to-hard-drive option that just copies everything from
> the USB-started image rather than retrieving packages de novo from the
> archive. And the image is also persistent in that changes done to it can
> survive reboots. My hunch was that any such wider .iso may help with the
> decision making to upgrade an existing installation. Have not tried our own
> .iso images, yet, so I have no exact idea about how redundant any such
> offer would be. And I guess that the LinuxCNC-.iso images are not fully
> redundant in their purpose to anything offered by Debian directly. I am
> also uncertain if any such real-time image would be better for LinuxCNC or
> Debian - I kind of guess that both would benefit.
>
> So, what are your thoughts?
>
> Best,
> Steffen
>
>
>
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