Max, PCs have been subject to close US and German scrutiny since at least 1980. That has forced them to adopt very good shielding practices including direct connection of the shields to the cabinet in a low inpedance fashion. Anyone in the industrial controls area who needs to get up to speed on how to meet EMC requirements on products which incorporate high speed digital electronic processing capabilities should go to school on the PC on thier desk. Examining a name brand PC is one way to get up to speed on good shielding technique real fast.
Is good shielding enough? If you are using digital signals - 0-5V - 1's and 0's - then it's pretty tough for the continuous RF tests to disturb you with reasonable shielding technique. ESD and EFT may still cause a problem, but usually not if the shieling is continuous. Shielding is often not enough though when trying to protect thermocouple, strain gages, or RTDs. With these devices a driving circuit applies a low level signal to the transducer and a receiving portion looks for a very small change in the resulting signal (mV) to indicate temperture rise or whatever. These receivers and drivers are typically op amp circuits with multiple stages to correct for non-linearities before the final A/D stage. These must be designed to maximize common mode rejection and their ground reference must be designed to be well behaved. A good shield will give you about 40dB of surpression and that is frequently just not enough. Jon D. Curtis, PE Curtis-Straus LLC j...@world.std.com One-Stop Laboratory for EMC, Product Safety and Telecom 527 Great Road voice (508) 486-8880 Littleton, MA 01460 fax (508) 486-8828 http://world.std.com/~csweb On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Max wrote: > > Jon, > > That's great information--I also anticipate a requirement for heavy > industrial immunity in the future and have been wondering what problems I > might be in for. > > With PCs (and computers in general), isn't it the case that if the cables are > shielded and grounded to the cabinet there isn't likely to be a problem? > > For emissions, BTW, I have also had good luck with DEC. > > Max Kelson > mkel...@es.com > > > %> > %>I have tested systems to the heavy industrial immunity specification which > %>included class B PCs. Both HP Vectra computers and Dell computers faired > %>well. Ocassionally the monitors sold with these systems are disturbed to > %>the point of turning themselves off (a failure in most books). To date > %>I've always been able to solve this problem by upgrading to an NEC > %>multisync monitor. The key distinquinction of all these products is that > %>they really do meet class B by wide margins and use very good shielding to > %>get to that level. Once you have shielding that good and use digital > %>techniques inside (as opposed to small signal, high impedance analog > %>signals - thermocouples, etc.) heavy industrial immunity compliance is > %>usually a given. > %> > %>Jon D. Curtis, PE > %> > %>Curtis-Straus LLC j...@world.std.com > %>One-Stop Laboratory for EMC, Product Safety and Telecom > %>527 Great Road voice (508) 486-8880 > %>Littleton, MA 01460 fax (508) 486-8828 > %>http://world.std.com/~csweb > %>On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Tony Fredriksson wrote: > %> > %>> >