George,

IEC/ISO Guide 25 is the basis for ALL existing testing and calibration
laboratory accreditation programs in the world including NVLAP and A2LA
recognized by the FCC.

Need to express measurement accuracy was recognized long time ago. Many
experts are working together on national and international levels in
order to come up with reasonable and easy to implement document on
measurement uncertainty. Good starting point to learn more about ISO
Guide 25, its current draft Rev. 5, standards and accreditation contact
points could be URL: http://www.microserve.net/~iso25/

Your contributions and comments on ISO Guide 25 will be much appreciated
by US representative on the working group, James Cigler, tel: (301)
975-4171, email: james.cig...@nist.gov.

Mirko
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From: George, David L             TR
To: pstc corespondence out
Cc: George, David L             TR
Subject: Uncertainty
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: Thursday, January 23, 1997 2:44PM

Rules are rules.  Because we let NVLAP into the situation we now have a
more ridged and rigorous certification system in the US than in Europe
for
some applications.  If we are not careful how we implement the rules it
will only get worse.  There are many people in the government who have
not
"been there and done that" who want to design a system by which we all
must
live.  Uncertainty is one of the issues.

Michael Barge is on the ball and he has a good perspective.  As I
understand it most of you are applying Uncertainty too broadly.  The
rules
should be applied only as they pertain to the certification
requirements.
For example, Europe has one application and the USA another.  For
minimum
impact they should not be mixed.

In the USA uncertainty only applies to calibration of test instruments
and
then only if you wish to become a NVLAP approved test lab.   If we
easily
accept it for the entire EMC test protocol, NVLAP will gladly apply it
to
the entire certification  procedure.  Before we go off and rant an rave
over this net, we should read the rules, understand what they say and
know
what the limitations are.  Please read NIST Technical Note 1297 and note
its applicability.

It seems only the test labs are preaching accreditation, certification
and
Uncertainty while most of the producing companies just quietly integrate
the testing into the quality process and leave it at that.  I have news
for
the test labs.  Trying to create a closed association with licensing and
other impedances to block competition only raises the price of service.
It
does not improve quality of service and the competition will not be
reduced.  Why make it hard on yourselves?

Dave George
Unisys Regulatory Compliance

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