Hi Kevin:


>   Can anyone please provide the SELV definition from IEC 364?

I'm working from some old documents, but...

SELV is not expressly defined in IEC 364-4-41.  Instead,
it specifies "Protection by safety extra-low voltage."

It says:

    "Protection against electric shock in normal service
    and in case of a fault is deemed to be ensured when:

    - the nominal voltage cannot exceed the upper limit
      of Voltage Band I*,

    - the supply is from one of the safety sources listed
      in Sub-clause 411.1.2, and

    - the conditions of Sub-clause 411.1.3 are fulfilled."

    "*See IEC Publication 449: Voltage Bands for Electrical
      Installations of Buildings."

The safety sources are:

    - a safety isolating transformer,

    - a source of current providing a degree of safety 
      equivalent to that of the safety isolating transformer
      (e.g., motor generators with windings providing 
      equivalent isolation),

    - an electrochemical source (e.g., a battery) or another
      source independent of a higher-voltage circuit (e.g., a
      diesel-driven generator,

    - certain electronic devices complying with appropriate
      standards where measure have been taken to ensure that, 
      even in the case of aninternal fault, the voltage at the
      outgoing termainals cannot exceed the values specified in
      Sub-clause 411.1.1.

The definition of SELV appears in IEC 536:

    "A voltage which does not exceed 50 V ac rms between
    conductors, or between any conductor and earth, in a 
    circuit which is isolated from the supply mains by means
    such as a safety isolating transformer or converter with
    separate windings."

IEC 950 defines SELV CIRCUIT:

    "A secondary circuit which is so designed and protected 
    that under normal and single fault conditions, its 
    voltages do not exceed a safe value."


SELV is a special case of ELV, Extra Low Voltage.  ELV is
defined (or implied) as a maximum voltage value deemed not to 
cause an electric shock.  SELV applies to an ELV where, in
the absence of specific protective mechanisms, the ELV would
exceed ELV under fault conditions.  So, SELV implies ELV with
some means to prevent the voltage from exceeding ELV limits
in the event of a fault.

A single-insulated transformer ELV secondary is ELV.

A double-insulated transformer ELV secondary is SELV.

An ELV battery is ELV.  It may or may not be SELV, depending
on your point of view.  

1:  Since the battery itself cannot exceed ELV under single-
    fault conditions, then it cannot be SELV.  Or, 

2:  Since the battery itself cannot exceed ELV cannot exceed 
    ELV under single-fault conditions, then it must be SELV.  

However, as defined, SELV implies an included protective
mechanism to limit the voltage in the event of a fault.  SELV
also implies that the ELV is derived from a higher, non-ELV
source.

If you accept that a battery is ELV, then the safety standards 
require that the battery voltages cannot be touched!


Best regards,
Rich




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