Jim,
Replacing the switch with a toggle type dimmer will greatly lengthen the
service life of bulbs. I have them in bedrooms and the bathroom. The main
intent was to prevent being jolted awake by bright lights if it were
necessary to get up at night. Because they look like ordinary light
switches, visitors have no trouble operating them.

As to using NTC thermistors, I would recommend that you NOT use them inside
of an electrical box. They do get quite hot, and even if they did not damage
wire insulation, you might be risking your insurance coverage in the event
of a fire. I have used them in the past to reduce inrush currents in power
supplies, but these were forced air cooled. Without forced cooling, they
provide almost no protection if power is re-applied almost immediately after
shutoff.

By the way, mechanical vibration may be the real culprit. I used to work in
a place where the bulbs failed with alarming frequency in our old shield
room. Leaving the ventilation blower off reduced the failure rate. Fragile
filaments hate to be shaken.

Scott Lacey

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf
Of Jim Eichner
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:35 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment



On the subject of NTC's, please allow me a slight detour from the compliance
world to the real world.

I have a circuit in my house that blows light bulbs far more often than any
other.  I can't determine any reason for this - the voltage seems normal and
there aren't any transient-producers on that same circuit (that I'm aware
of).  Long life and rural-duty bulbs make little or no difference.

Instead of figuring out the root cause, I'm considering resorting to trying
to deal with the symptom (blown bulbs) by putting an NTC in series with the
light fixture somewhere.  My thinking is that the mechanism that blows an
incandescent bulb filament is related to the high inrush current into the
cold (and therefore low R) filament, and the physical and thermal stresses
that that inrush causes.

Any comments on how likely this is to help, and whether or not I can safely
put an NTC in an junction box full of wires?  I'd check the NTC's
temperature under load (they get hot) and compare that the the temp. rating
of the wires in the box.  I'd also insulate the bare legs of the NTC and try
to make sure it isn't touching anything else.  Anyone familiar with the
failure modes of these things?

Thanks,

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 7:58 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment



Dear All,

I have seen some design where NTCs are used to limit inrush currents in
motion controllers.

Q. Are NTCs safe and reliable as means to limit inrush currents?

Q. Are there safety considerations to consider for circuits employing NTCs?

Q. Are there any Approved (previously evaluated) NTC components out there?


I appreciate all of your comments and/or links regarding the use of NTCs in
electrical equipment.

Thanks

Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
Product Testing Division
I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd.
Hacharoshet 26, POB 211
Or Yehuda 60251, Israel

Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019
e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il
website: http://www.itl.co.il






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