forwarding for Lal Bahra ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: IEC 62151 Author: lal.ba...@us.ul.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 5/19/00 6:40 AM
Hello to all of you: Yesterday when I replied to your E-mail, I typed the standard number IEC 62151 at some places and IEC 61251 at other places. My apologies. Following message contains the correct numbers. I just received a copy of IEC 62151. It is published May 2000. I found the following: There are new definitions the following: Hazardous-live-part: This is used in lieu of hazardous voltage in IEC 60950. Accessible: Same meaning as in IEC 60950 but it is defined in IEC 62151. TNV-0: Same as SELV in IEC 60950. Protective earthing: IEC 60950 does not have a definition but the same understanding. The only other difference is that IEC 62151 does not have the "summation of touch currents" which is covered in IEC 60950. This requirement primarily applies to PABX type equipment which may have hundreds or thousands of trunk lines. Equipment other than telecommunication equipment may never use this requirement. Thanks and best regards. Lal Bahra -------------------------------------------------------------------------- IEC 62151 has just been published. It replaces IEC guide 105. IEC 60950 has its own complete requirements for equipment connected to Telecommunication network. The requirements of IEC 62151 are based on the requirements of IEC 60950 except for minor differences in terminology. For example, in IEC 62151, SELV circuit is designated as a TNV-0 circuit. IEC 62151 is a basic safety publication and all IEC technical committees other than TC74, whose products have connections to the telecom network must use the requirements of IEC 62151 and make a reference to this standard unless they have a properly rationalized justification. TC 74 was given the task of writing the basic safety standard for "Safety of Equipment electrically connected to a telecommunication network" . This standard IEC 62151 covers only the interface to telecom network. The requirements of the end product standard apply to the product under consideration. EN41003 is a European Community standard and would have many differences from IEC 62151 just as it had differences from IEC 60950. IEC 62151 is similar to the telecom requirements of IEC 60950. Thanks and best regards. Lal Bahra ------------------------ Stefan Hipskind To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc: Jerilyn M. Merrill/NBK/ULI@ULI, Lal 05/18/00 Bahra/NBK/ULI@ULI 02:21 PM Subject: IEC 62151 To All, Opinions and answers fall below in red. All: I recently received an email notice of a new product safety standard: IEC 62151 "Safety of equipment electrically connected to a telecommunication network". --How does this standard relate to IEC 950 / 60950? To my understanding it is used when product is not covered under UL1950, but has telecommunication circuitry. Closed loop systems is when you typically use IEC 62151. --Will it be used in conjunction with 950, or stand-alone? IEC 62151 is a stand alone. --Is this similar to / reminiscent of EN 41003? Unfortunately, I do not have an answer on this, you may wish to contact Mr. Lal Bahra at (847) 272-8800, Ext 43492 He is considered our leading authority on this standard and sits on the working group for the standard. Thanks in advance for the insights. Hope it helps. John Boucher Lucent Technologies Inc. Stefan Hipskind Underwriters Laboratories Account Executive, EMC e-mail stefan.hipsk...@us.ul.com Phone 1.847.272.8800, ext 42975 Fax 1.847.509.6311 Cell Phone 1.847.542.8736 ----- Forwarded by Stefan Hipskind/NBK/ULI on 05/18/00 02:12 PM ----- "Boucher, John" <j...@bighorn.dr.l To: "'emc-p...@ieee.org'" ucent.com> <emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@iee bcc: e.org Subject: IEC 62151 05/18/00 11:29 AM Please respond to "Boucher, John" To All, Opinions and answers fall below in red. All: I recently received an email notice of a new product safety standard: IEC 62151 "Safety of equipment electrically connected to a telecommunication network". --How does this standard relate to IEC 950 / 60950? To my understanding it is used when product is not covered under UL1950 (Medical, Vending, ) but has telecommunication circuitry. This is when you typically use IEC 62151. --Will it be used in conjunction with 950, or stand-alone? IEC 62151 is a stand alone. --Is this similar to / reminiscent of EN 41003? Unfortunately, I do not have an easy answer on this, you may wish to contact Mr. at (847) 272-8800, Ext 4 He is considered our leading atuhority on this standard. Thanks in advance for the insights. John Boucher Lucent Technologies Inc. ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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