Well, I'm glad you have your body armour on and properly adjusted.  One
problem, when that load of napalm hits your going to wish it was only
bullets.

> JOHN E. STUCKEY
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lacey,Scott [mailto:sla...@foxboro.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:29
To: 'David Spencer'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: Chip noise halts Intel 820 motherboard



In defense of Intel (please wait a moment while I don my full body armor),
this is probably one of those things that only occurs on alternate rainy
Tuesdays when using certain specific brands of SDRAM.

Scott Lacey

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   David Spencer [SMTP:dspen...@oresis.com]
        Sent:   Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:52 PM
        To:     EMC-PSTC
        Subject:        RE: Chip noise halts Intel 820 motherboard


        Filed under "Things that make you go hmmm."
        Was this a major Product Verification screw up?
        Or a carefully crafted marketing plan to increase demand for RDRAM?

        Have a Great Day,
        Dave Spencer
        Oresis Communications

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Paul J Smith [mailto:paul_j_sm...@notes.teradyne.com]
        Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:21 AM
        To: Barry Ma
        Cc: EMC-PSTC
        Subject: Re: Chip noise halts Intel 820 motherboard



        Barry,

        Thanks for the heads-up. Article was also published by AP in today's
Boston
        Globe. The following excerpt is from the site you noted ....

        Regards,  Paul J. Smith
        Teradyne, Boston


        Chip maker will replace motherboards using its 820 chip set due to
noise
        caused
        by simultaneous switching of
         signals.

         Intel Corp. has acknowledged another setback for PCs using its 820
chip
        set.

         The company announced Wednesday morning that it will replace
motherboards
        using
         its 820 chip set that are exhibiting
         symptoms of a problem with a related component -- called a memory
        translator
        hub, or MTH -- with synchronous dynamic
         RAM (SDRAM).

                             While the hub is not part of the 820 itself, it
is
        required
         on a motherboard that uses SDRAM. It
                             enables the chip set, which was designed to
work with
        Rambus dynamic RAM (RDRAM), to use
                             less expensive, more readily available SDRAM.

                             "We have found that some systems ... may be
sensitive
        to
        system board noise," an Intel
                             spokesman said.

                             Hangs and reboots

                             The MTH problem, which manifests itself by
system hangs
        and
         intermittent system reboots, is due
                             to noise caused by simultaneous switching of
signals on
        the
         MTH buses, Intel officials said.

                             Intel is working with PC and motherboard makers
to
        notify
        computer users of the problem and to
         offer a replacement motherboard. Intel plans to replace all the 820
        motherboards with SDRAM support that it sold directly
         to customers with an Intel 820 chip set motherboard with RDRAM
memory.

                                 Computer users who believe they are
affected should
        contact their manufacturers, or they can
                                 check Intel's Web site, where they can
download the
        MTH
         ID Utility to test for the presence
                                 of the hub.

                                 The MTH support site also includes
additional
        information on the problems.

         "We believe less than 1 million boards with the MTH have been
shipped to
        customers," an Intel spokesman said. However,
         "since we have determined no root cause on this issue, we have
decided to
        offer
         a replacement."




        Barry Ma <barry...@altavista.com> on 05/10/2000 07:12:33 PM

        Please respond to Barry Ma <barry...@altavista.com>

        To:   EMC-PSTC <emc-p...@ieee.org>
        cc:    (bcc: Paul J Smith/Bos/Teradyne)
        Subject:  Chip noise halts Intel 820 motherboard





        
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20000510/tc/chip_noise_halts_intel_820_produ
        ction_1.html


        INTEL will replace motherboards using its 820 chip set due to noise
caused
        by
        simultaneous switching of signals.
        ------------

        Can anybody be more specific or just make a speculation by using EMC
        language?

        Another question is irrelevant to EMC. I am wondering why it took so
long -
        five
        months from field failure report to recreating the problem inside
INTEL? See
        quotation below:

        First noted in November
        "Intel began shipping the MTH last November. The problem was brought
to
        light by
        an Intel customer who observed the problem.... Intel followed up on
the
        report
        and observed the problem in its own tests earlier this month."



        Barry Ma
        b...@anritsu.com

        
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