I hope not;--  please don't give these  (B)(E)urocrats any ideas!
  
Tania Grant,  tgr...@lucent.com
Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group
Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions

> ----------
> From:         Louis Fischer[SMTP:lofis...@cisco.com]
> Reply To:     Louis Fischer
> Sent:         Monday, April 09, 2001 3:02 PM
> To:   EMC-PSTC (E-mail)
> Subject:      RE: Odd CE Marking Question
> 
> Is there a Directive for decorative items, or perhaps for props or stage
> equipment, which might be more appropriate?  LEF
> ---------------------------
> Louis E. Fischer
> Compliance Engineer
> Cisco Systems, Inc.
> 12515 Research Blvd, Bldg 4
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> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]  On
> Behalf Of Grant, Tania (Tania)
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:24 AM
> To:   Kevin Harris; 'Steve Brody'
> Cc:   EMC-PSTC (E-mail)
> Subject:      RE: Odd CE Marking Question
> 
> I don't know, Steve.   That might be jumping from the frying pan into the
> fire;--   has the dummy been evaluated to be a safe toy???????????     ;)
>       
> Tania Grant,  tgr...@lucent.com
> Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group
> Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions
> 
> ----------
> From:         Steve Brody[SMTP:sbr...@prodigy.net]
> Reply To:     Steve Brody
> Sent:         Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:21 PM
> To:   Kevin Harris
> Cc:   EMC-PSTC (E-mail)
> Subject:      Re: Odd CE Marking Question
> 
> 
> Having read through most of the responses as of this writing, and finding,
> as
> expected, very valid and well positioned recommendations and suggestions,
> I
> submit that if this is intended to be a dummy intended to make people
> believe
> that it is what it is supposed to be, even if it is not, then a CE Marking
> and
> other labels may be required to complete the ruse.  If, as some of our
> colleagues believe that CE Marking and claiming compliance to LVD or EMC
> is not
> valid and should not be done, then treat the dummy as it is and claim
> compliance
> to the Toys Directive and mark the product with a CE Marking.
> 
> Steve Brody
> Sr. Compliance Engineer
> Thermo NESLAB
> steve.br...@neslab.com or sbr...@prodigy.net
> .
> 
> Kevin Harris wrote:
> 
> > Hello Group,
> >

> > I just had a question posed to me that made me think a little bit. So I
> will
> > pose it to all of you.  First some preamble. A device is going to be
> made
> > for the European market. It is in fact a "dummy" device in that it looks
> > like the real thing but it is not. The only electronics inside is a
> bridge
> > rectifier and a RC circuit to blink a LED. The device can be powered by
> > either an AC or DC source up to 30 V. The power source is not supplied.
> For
> > this industry (security) there is a product family standard for EMC. The
> > device is not a mock up for store display purposes but is in fact used
> in
> > the industry to give the impression that there are more of these devices
> > around than there really are.
> >
> > So the moment has arrived, do you CE mark the device? If you say yes,
> what
> > directive did you apply? If you say no, what is your reasoning?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Kevin Harris
> > Manager, Approval Services
> > Digital Security Controls
> > 3301 Langstaff Road
> > Concord, Ontario
> > CANADA
> > L4K 4L2
> >
> > Tel: +1 905 760 3000 Ext. 2378
> > Fax +1 905 760 3020
> >
> > Email: harr...@dscltd.com <mailto:harr...@dscltd.com>
> >
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