Tania and Amund,
IMHO, the margin of compliance should be at least equal to or greater than the measurement uncertainty. Measurement uncertainty for radiated emissions is generally in the range of 3 to 4 dB for most labs. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes "Tania Grant" <taniagr...@msn.com> To: <am...@westin-emission.no>, <emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org> Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@majordom Subject: Re: EMI guard bands o.ieee.org 12/17/2001 01:38 PM Please respond to "Tania Grant" Amund, My minimum criteria and recommendation has always been at least 6dB. However, how many engineering managers, upon finding a 1.5 dB margin in their favor, rule "ship it"! Education (repeated brainwashing of as many 'powerful company managers) has been my response;-- but that often takes time. In those cases, there is a written memoranda signed by me explaining why that kind of approach is not correct. taniagr...@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <am...@westin-emission.no> To: <emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: SV: EMI guard bands > > Cecil, > > When thinking of EMI guard band (margins), I put the following into mind: > 1. variation in production (a couple of dB) > 2. uncertainly during measurements (5-6 dB at lower frequencies like 30MHz) > 3. variation from labs to labs (I don't know ....4-6 dB ?? ) > > I think 6-8dB should give you a good feeling. > > Amund > > > > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]Pa vegne av > cecil.gitt...@kodak.com > Sendt: 10. desember 2001 13:46 > Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Emne: EMI guard bands > > > > From: Cecil A. Gittens > > I am in the process of putting a document together for products that are > tested for Radiated & Conducted Emissions > that should have a Guard-band of 6 dB for FCC or CISPR22 class A or B. > Does it depend if the product is class A or B? > Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions? > > Thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old > messages are imported into the new server. > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.