Actually, I understand that those devices that shoot darts are called
Tasers,
while stun guns have two metallic probes with about 20 kV across them when
the trigger is pushed.  Typically they are used in direct contact with the
aggressor, so there would not be any live wires or darts bouncing around
inside of the aircraft.

I agree with Scott in terms of holes in the aircraft skin.  There presently
is a
controlled leak, usually in the rear of the aircraft, which controls the
pressure
inside.  If there were some bullet holes in the skin, the controlled leak
would
just adjust to leak less. However, a window would be another story, but
it would not be as dramatic as shown in most movies. The windows are
plastic so probably would not completely blow out, but it would make a
lot of noise.

John Shinn, P.E.
(also a pilot)


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Subject: Re: Stun Guns on Aircraft.



Gregg,

I believe the type of device they are talking about is the kind that shoots
a projectile
with two electrodes that penetrate the skin. Thin wires remain attached to
the "gun"
and deliver shock pulses to the cockpit invader. I think that aircraft
instrumentation
has enough immunity to withstand emissions from the wires. The main trouble
with
this gadget (most of them are one shot deals) is if the bad guy was smart
enough to
bring friends.

As for bullets, aircraft pressurization systems are designed with excess
capacity.
Even a couple of dozen bullet holes are very minor leaks for such a system.
There
would be a problem if a bullet damaged something but large aircraft have
redundant
systems for almost everything. Also, they would almost certainly only use
pre-
fragmented "safety rounds". These are made up of very small birdshot stuck
together
and are designed to disintegrate on impact.

I think by now it should be obvious which one I would want the pilot to have
if I were
one of the passengers.

Scott Lacey

On 3 May 2002 at 12:38, Gregg Kervill wrote:

>
> There have been several reports here (in the US) that airlines are placing
> guns or stun-guns on aircraft.
>
> I understand the risk of a bullet - I understand that the risk can be
> reduced by using a flat, disc-shaped, rubber projectile. BUT, the though
of
> ANYONE discharging a stun gun on a flight deck full of mission critical
> (and sometimes not well buffered) electronics scares me more that the
though
> of a terrorist.
>
>
> Please can someone tell me that I should not worry - or to stop flying.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Gregg
>
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