Ditto here too. John Juhasz Fiber Options
-----Original Message----- From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:24 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 We test to EN50130-4 and we use EN61000-4-6 basud upon our understanding that ENV 50141 is withdrawn (see forward) and replaced by EN61000-4-6. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -----Original Message----- From: Mavis, Robert [mailto:rma...@pelco.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:09 AM To: cet...@cetest.nl; John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 So what do I do? Follow the EN 50130-4 : 1996 standard that states;" The test apparatus procedure shall be as described in ENV 50141 : 1993, with the following modifications and clarifications taken into account." or do I substitute EN 61000-4-6 in place of ENV 50141. -----Original Message----- From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... [mailto:cet...@cetest.nl] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:55 AM To: Mavis, Robert; John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 It looks as if you are right, but in the case of any ENV version of a standard, this calling out is incorrect. Any ENV standard is NOT a standard. It was never meant to be used as a standard but temporarily. The EN version following it WAS. However, in this case the EN 50141 was not published, so the only alternative is the EN 61000-4-6. The ENV version, as it says itself, automatically becomes non-existent as soon as its successor is published. Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing =============================================== Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ =============================================== >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Mavis, Robert >>Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 4:55 AM >>To: John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 >> >> >> >>John, >> >>Even though the ENV is a pre-standard, if a Product Family >>Standard calls it >>out you must test to it. Am I not correct. >>Case in point, EN 50130-4 Product Family Standard for Alarm Systems calls >>out specifically ENV 50141 not EN 61000-4-6. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] >>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:29 AM >>To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>Subject: Re: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 >> >> >> >>I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Chileshe <chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk> >>wrote (in <01c19a92.f4398e80.chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk>) about 'EN >>50141 and EN 61000-4-6', on Fri, 11 Jan 2002: >>>I am testing to the generic immunity standard EN 61000-6-2 >>>which refers to EN 61000-4-6 for immunity to conducted >>>disturbances induced by radio-frequency fields. >>> >>>A query has arisen that EN 50141 is missing from my list of >>>tests. Is my understanding correct that these two standards >>>are essentially the same? I do not have a copy of either and >>>currently awaiting delivery of EN 61000-4-6 which I have >>>recently purchased. >> >>50141 is an ENV (a 'pre-standard'), not an EN and is not called up by >>EN61000-6-2. Whoever threatened you with 'EN50141' is unaware of the >>facts. If it was a test-house, get another one! >>-- >>Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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