Bonjour de Montreal, Let me point out a couple of things here. I was the Chairman for the 2001 Symposium. The reasons why CDs are used today are numerous for instance:
1- Most of the users (including myself) prefer CDs for its concentration of information and the search tools. 2- Since the IEEE EMC Society has the rare policy of sending the Symposium proceedings to every member worldwide (even if they do not go to the Symposium) and since a limited percentage of members actually go to the Symposium, each year, the Society saves thousand of dollars of shipping (especially to places like Singapore) so that every one gets a copy. By the way things are going, if every Symposium committee would have to send the printed version to everyone, this policy would have been dropped. 3- Many members who come to the Symposium find the books too heavy to carry and leave them in Hotel rooms and go away only with the CD. 4- If, like Mr. Foo, someone wants to get a completed printed version, collated and with page numbers, (and save on toner, paper and more important, time), he has many choices, participate to the Symposium (best way), ask someone he knows to purchase another copy on-site and convince him to carry this heavy weight (was 8 cm thick and 3.33 Kg, 40$ US in Montreal), ask someone who went to the Symposium and do not want the printed version anymore or wait after the Symposium and purchase this from the IEEE (a lot more money involved). 5- It is true that the 2001 Symposium papers on the CD ROM do not have any page number, but the purpose working with the CD is not to print every page and recreate the printed version but to find valuable information on a specific subject and only print the papers relating to this search. We never anticipated that someone would do that; this is the reason why we did not include page numbers in our CD ROM. I am sorry that some IEEE EMC Society members experienced problems with the CD ROM and the lack of page numbering of the 2001 Symposium CD but I hope this message will clarify the situation. Best regards, ====================================================== Benoît Nadeau, ing., M.ing. (P.Eng., M.Eng) Gérant du Groupe Conformité (Conformity Group Manager) Matrox ====================================================== 1055, boul St-Régis Dorval (Québec) Canada H9P 2T4 Tel : (514) 822-6000 (2475) Fax : (514) 822-6275 mailto:bnad...@matrox.com http://www.matrox.com ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Wan Juang Foo Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 21:04 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: IEEE Conference Proceedings (2000 - 2001) Dear All, I am not know for being very organised. The CDs are very portable but because of that, great care must be taken to keep track of its whereabouts. The idea of the CD must be some kind of conspiracy to sell lots of toner and paper. I find that I ended up printing almost every page of the proceedings and spending endless hours stapling and collating ... It became a jigsaw puzzle of a sort. :-) 1999 and 2000 is OK because page numbers was assigned... Then came the 2001 proceedings, no page numbers, only session codes. What a letdown. Sigh :-( Just my bit of complaint about the way proceedings are collated and recorded by the Montreal conference. Tim Foo "Ravinder Ajmani" <ajm...@us.ibm.com> To: "Aschenberg, Mat" <matt.aschenb...@echostar.com> Sent by: cc: emc-p...@ieee.org, (bcc: Wan Juang Foo/ece/staff/npnet) owner-emc-pstc@majordo Subject: RE: IEEE Conference Proceedings (2000 - 2001) mo.ieee.org 07/16/02 04:15 AM Please respond to "Ravinder Ajmani" Mat, I had received the 2001 IEEE Conference Proceedings CD in the original shrink wrap, which was post marked BELGIQUE. I do not know the name of the company that mailed it to me. Regards, Ravinder PCB Development and Design Department IBM Corporation Email: ajm...@us.ibm.com *************************************************************************** Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. .... Mark Twain "Aschenberg, Mat" <Matt.Aschenberg@echos To: "'bnad...@matrox.com'" <bnad...@matrox.com>, tar.com> emc-p...@ieee.org Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@majordo Subject: RE: IEEE Conference Proceedings (2000 - 2001) mo.ieee.org 07/15/2002 11:15 AM Please respond to "Aschenberg, Mat" Let me clarify... Is there a company sponsoring the distribution of the IEEE conference proceedings, so that they are not approx. $150 each? > -----Original Message----- > From: Benoit Nadeau [SMTP:bnad...@matrox.com] > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Aschenberg, Mat; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: IEEE Conference Proceedings (2000 - 2001) > > Bonjour de Montreal, > > Each year, the IEEE library buys all the documentation issued by > International Symposiums of all the IEEE. They then make them available to > buy on their web site. The following link will bring you to the Internet > pages for the last IEEE EMC Symposiums. Just click "Conference > proceedings" > and do a search on "electromagnetic compatibility" and you will get a list > of all they have. You will see the 2000 (Washington) and 2001 (Montreal) > symposiums listed on paper or CD-ROM. > > Regards, > > http://shop.ieee.org/store/ > > > > ====================================================== > Benoît Nadeau, ing., M.ing. (P.Eng., M.Eng) > Gérant du Groupe Conformité (Conformity Group Manager) > Matrox > ====================================================== > 1055, boul St-Régis > Dorval (Québec) > Canada H9P 2T4 > Tel : (514) 822-6000 (2475) > Fax : (514) 822-6275 > mailto:bnad...@matrox.com > http://www.matrox.com > ====================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Aschenberg, Mat > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:18 > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: IEEE Conference Proceedings (2000 - 2001) > > > Hello, > In the past the IEEE procedings have been made available to the public. > Applied Microfilm sponsored the 40 years for $40. > UL sponsored a CD for the few years following. > > Has anyone seen a CD for the last two years? > Mat > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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