Creepage distance has nothing to do with current within the context of the
product safety standards.
Creepage distance is the distance across the surface of an insulating
material. The specific Creepage distance for any product safety application
is based on:
1)      Working Voltage,
2)      Installation Category - defines where on the power grid the product
gets power = this defines the maximum anticipated overvoltage that the
product will be subjected from upstream switching surges and other
transients that may.
3)      Pollution degree - the amount of potentially conductive contaminants
that could reduce the creepage distance.
4)      The insulation material's resistance to tracking - designated by the
CTI rating of the insulating material.

Creepage distances are specified such that, if there is a breakdown due to a
short term transient, we want the breakdown to occur through the clearance
distance (air) rather than across the creepage distance (insulating
surface). The rationale being that once the transient that caused the
breakdown subsides, the clearance is replaced by new air = no permanent
damage. However, if a breakdown occurs across a Creepage distance, it leaves
a permanent carbon path which thereby reduces the voltage required for the
next breakdown. And so on and so on until a fire hazard (heat in the carbon
path) or shock hazard occurs (complete breakdown).
This helps to explain why clearance distances are also based on Air Pressure
(altitude) since it directly related to the insulating properties of air.
Again, if there is a breakdown, we want the air (clearance) to break down
before the insulation (creepage).
I hope this helps.

Bill Bisenius
bi...@productsafet.com
Educated Design & Development, Inc. (ED&D)
2200 Gateway Centre Blvd.
Suite 215
Morrisville, NC 27560
919-469-9434
www.productsafet.com

 -----Original Message-----
From:   owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]  On Behalf Of David Sproul
Sent:   Friday, October 11, 2002 8:06 AM
To:     Ted Rook
Cc:     EMC-PSTC
Subject:        RE: David Sproul...UL creepage limits ;~)


Ted,
thank you for your response.  I do not claim to be an expert, but I cannot
accept that creepage has anything to to with the current flowing in a
circuit.  Surely it is the voltage across the material and the CTI of that
material which determines the likelihood of tracking across the material to
take place.

As for your car battery melting story, cars must be wired differently in the
US than in the UK, because I have connected negative to negative and
positive to positive on many occaisions, and never had anything anymore
exciting happen than the second car starts.

Best regards,
David Sproul.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ted Rook
Sent: 09 October 2002 15:28
To: <
Subject: David Sproul...UL creepage limits ;~)



This is because when you double the voltage the power is proportional to a
quarter of the current squared. In America the 120V power is at lower
voltage but the current is twice as much and so the creepage is twice as
well.

Very high voltage circuits hardly creep at all whereas low voltages creep
the most. That is why you should never join the two negative terminals when
you jump start a car, the car battery charging circuits have so much
creepage they can melt the battery.

I though everybody knew that...........



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