Amund et. al, Since IMO is a member organization, I doubt there is such thing as an "IMO vessel".
Kind Regards, Sam Wismer Engineering Manager ACS, Inc. *Tel: (770) 831-8048 *Fax: (770) 831-8598 *Web: www.acstestlab.com *swis...@acstestlab.com From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of am...@westin-emission.no Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:58 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum' Subject: SV: EN 60945 Jim, I have been looking for a definition on the web site http://www.imo.org/home.asp but I have not found any ..... Amund > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av Jim Eichner > Sendt: 19. september 2003 00:34 > Til: 'EMC-PSTC - forum' > Emne: RE: EN 60945 > > > > Amund: Is there a definition somewhere of what does and doesn't > qualify as > an IMO vessel? > > Thanks, > > Jim Eichner, P.Eng. > Compliance Engineering Manager > Xantrex Technology Inc. > e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com > web: www.xantrex.com > Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who > really exists. > Honest. No really. > Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:25 PM > To: Sam Wismer; 'EMC 2' > Subject: SV: EN 60945 > > > > Agree with you Sam. > > I can not see that you have to install "IEC60945 approved" > equipment into a > bass boat. And far as I understand, IEC60945 only applies for equipment > placed in IMO ships. > > Bass boats are not IMO ships ...... > > But it could happened that your client who manufactures fish locating > equipment want to sell his equipment to IMO ships as well ... > Echo-sounding > equipment (can be used in fishery purposes) is listed in the EU marine > Equipment Directive and EN 60945 applies. > > > Amund > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: Sam Wismer [mailto:swis...@acstestlab.com] > > Sendt: 18. september 2003 22:42 > > Til: am...@westin-emission.no; 'EMC 2' > > Emne: RE: EN 60945 > > > > > > Amund, > > Thanks for the information. I can understand and appreciate the > > importance of that on ocean going vessels. However, I don't mean to be > > cynical, but is a bass boat considered to have what equates to a bridge > > on a cruise ship or ocean liner? > > > > After all, this is a bass boat used on a small lake with one VHF radio. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam Wismer > > > > Engineering Manager > > > > ACS, Inc. > > > > > > > > *Tel: (770) 831-8048 > > > > *Fax: (770) 831-8598 > > > > *Web: www.acstestlab.com > > > > *swis...@acstestlab.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:08 PM > > To: Sam Wismer; EMC 2 > > Subject: SV: EN 60945 > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > Quote IEC60945: > > > > "This standard specifies minimum performance requirements, methods of > > testing and required > > test results for general requirements which can be applied to those > > characteristics common to > > all equipment described hereunder: > > a) shipborne radio equipment ............. > > b) shipborne navigational equipment ........... > > c) for EMC only, all other bridge-mounted equipment, equipment in close > > proximity to > > receiving antennas, and equipment capable of interfering with safe > > navigation of the ship > > and with radio-communications (see IMO Resolution A.813)". > > > > So, it seems that the EMC part of IEC60945 applies to all equipment > > installed on the bridge. The special case regarding EMC is that the > > radiated > > emission limit within the band 156-165MHz is 24dBuV/m @ 3m distance. > > > > Quote IEC60945: > > "Above 30 MHz all ships carry a VHF receiver operating in the band 156 > > MHz - > > 165 MHz. For > > the VHF band IMO requires a receiver sensitivity of 2 ?V e.m.f which > > equates > > to a field > > strength of 3 ?V/m at the antenna. For a typical separation of 15 m > > between > > the bridge and > > the VHF antenna, the free-space field strength at 3 m is 15 ?V/m (23,5 > > dBV/m) to give 3 > > ?V/m at the antenna, so a tighter limit is a requirement for operation > > of > > VHF communications > > (figure 4)". > > > > > > Amund > > > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]Pa vegne av Sam Wismer > > Sendt: 18. september 2003 20:26 > > Til: EMC 2 > > Emne: EN 60945 > > > > > > Hello Group, > > Been a while.. > > > > Hope all has been well with everyone. > > > > I have a client who manufactures fish locating equipment designed to be > > used > > on recreational vessels such as your standard bass boat. My client has > > been > > getting his equipment tested to EN 60945 because it used in the vicinity > > of > > navigational equipment that is required to be on the craft, such as the > > VHF > > radio. On a bass boat used in the local lake, that is about the extent > > of > > the navigational equipment on the boat. It is my opinion that EN 60945 > > is a > > bit extreme for this equipment, in this environment - the local lake. > > Also > > since his equipment is not navigational equipment, EN 60945 should not > > even > > apply. His or his previous labs, reasoning, for applying EN 60945, was > > that > > since it was in the vicinity of navigational equipment, it should apply. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Sam Wismer > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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