Charles -

> From: Charles Blackham
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:54 AM
>
> I wish to provide a safety barrier between the
> User connecting to the 10/100 RJ45 Ethernet port
> and the TNV3 circuitry within my unit.
>
> Can anyone recommend a suitable Ethernet
> transformer that is a UL recognised component and
> meets the Creepage and clearance distances for
> Basic insulation?

I'm not aware of any ethernet transformers that provide
Basic Insulation, but there may be some.  All I can suggest
is to try the big players: Midcom, Pulse, Bel Fuse, et al.
Each of those mentioned have telephony transformers that
meet Basic Insulation requirements.

I don't know the innards of your equipment, but it would
seem easier to use a barrier at the TNV-3 interface and have
the remainder of the product's secondary circuits be SELV.
There are circumstances I've come across that don't make
this practical (for instance, a large systems) and there are
ways around the construction requirement for most markets
(certain "Nordics" excluded).

> Alternatively, can I use rely on the "through
> insulation" breakdown of the enamel insulation
> and potting on a bi-filar wound core? Do I just
> have to meet the electric strength test, or am I
> missing something here?

In general, no, you can't rely on this.  For Canada and the
US, there are some special cases where magnet wire is
allowed to provide insulation (not simply isolation) in a
TNV-2 or -3 circuit, but I don't think you'll find an
ethernet transformer that you can guarantee will meet these
requirements.

FWIW, there is a proposal in TC108 (108/69/CD) to permit
limited use of enameled magnet wire for compliance with
TNV-x requirements.  I don't know the current status of this
document and can not accurately predict (who can?) it's
complexion in final for.

Good luck.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
ptar...@ieee.org



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