Hello All, I believe it was mentioned previously, but the link for the CTL Decisions may have gone unoticed by some;
Both the CTL Decision Sheets and the OSM Decision Sheets are available online at: <http://www.cbscheme.org/ct/decisions.htm> At this same location, there is also a description of the CTL and its operational procedures; they may help to clarify some of the questions raised in this forum. Regards, Art Michael -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- | Thinking of joining the Product Safety Engineering Society?? | | We REBATE PSES Dues to new subscribers to IPSN | | | | Int'l Product Safety News | | P.O.Box 1561-PSES | | Middletown CT 06457-8061 U.S.A. | | Phone: (860) 344-1651 Fax: (860) 346-9066 | | | | See Details at:<http://www.safetylink.com/pses/psesoffr.txt> | -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 richhug...@aol.com wrote: > John, > > Glad to see that you have started a new thread so that we may start afresh. > > In fact, in an earlier reply to Art Michael I did make a passing reference to > OSM decisions relating to EN 60950. However, this may have been too brief or > obscure for you to notice. > > Although I have never worked in a test house and so cannot comment from > personal experience, I understand that the Operational Staff Meeting (OSM) of the > CENELEC Certification Bodies (CCB) operates in a similar way to the CTL within > the IECEE as regards discussing testing matters. Perhaps one of the people > who are members of this group would care to confirm or correct this statement? > > It does seem that there is no universal way of confirming OSM decisions with > the relevant CENELEC Technical Committees, or CTL decisions with the relevant > IEC Committees. Up until recently, IEC/EN 60065 was developed by TC92 and > IEC/EN 60950 was developed by TC74: now both standards are the responsibility of > TC108 and it is possible to see that slightly different procedures were in > place to deal with these standards. As it happens, representatives from test > labs were active in both TC74 and TC74 and they continue to be active in TC108 > and so for IEC/EN 60065 and IEC/EN 60950 there is a good linkage between the > standards makers and the test and certification bodies. This does seem to result > more from serendipity rather than an overall grand plan, however. > > I would hope and expect that the OSM has a way of communicating their > documents to the CTL. Not being a member of either organisation I could not say if > this a formal or informal arrangement. Again, a reply from someone who works > for a test lab and is aware of the procedures would be nice! > > Perhaps you could use your internal contacts within the ERA to check out the > situation with other standards? > > Certainly, within TC76, dealing with IEC/EN 60825, there have been no CTL > decisions discussed in the time that I have been attending IEC meetings. > However, the only CB scheme for that standard series relates to IEC 60825-2 and that > scheme is little used. > > Best regards and Merry Christmas, > > Richard Hughes > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc