It is also not directly with question, but it was one-hand shock. When I was 4 I used to switch on and off the Christmas tree by inserting the plug in and out of the outlet. The plug and outlet construction was so that my finger was possible to contact with both hot and ground plug wires and it happened. The other what children can do: My first transformer (beeing about 8) had 7 turns of primary winding and 1 turn of secondary. My calculation was 220*1/7=31V but I din't got that voltage. Regards Piotr Galka
----- Original Message ----- From: Price, Ed <mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com> To: emc-pstc mailinglist <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: RE: Is one-handed electrical shock possible? - Nearly OT -----Original Message----- From: Camille Good [ mailto:goodca_ve...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:56 AM To: emc-pstc mailinglist Subject: Re: Is one-handed electrical shock possible? This is going off on a bit of a tangent to your question, but . . . if you are remembering an account of a child playing with a hairpin (or other moderately flexible piece of metal) and a live electrical socket and getting injured, the injury may have been a burn injury and not a shock injury. If the child was able to stick both ends of the metal into the hot and neutral openings at the same time, it would create a short and the metal would get very hot very quickly. I bring this up because my father told me once that he had done exactly that when he was about 4 or 5 years old with a 120 V socket and a hairpin and he received a pretty painful burn before he could yank his hand away. He also said there was a scorch mark on the socket and the surrounding wall for quite a while after that, so apparently the hairpin got quite hot. -Camille This may be drifting too far, but......... My mother confirms that my first experience with regulatory compliance came when I was 3 years old. My father had installed spring-loaded, rotating covers on every outlet in our home (I wonder what prompted that?), thus "child-proofing" the exposed twin-blade, ungrounded power outlets. Moments after completing the job, I demonstrated how to rotate the cap and insert a key into an outlet. Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Applications San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
