CENELEC requirements do not necessarily pertain to NRTL requirements; which
are driven by United States OSHA requirements...

When acting as an NRTL, I've yet to see any two agencies perform a FUS audit
using the same procedure, having the same requirements.

If a safety-critical component does not bear a mark that would indicate that
it is an NRTL recognized component, then most NRTLs will require that the mfr
be audited. 

If your company has an approved quality-control process, and can demonstrate
that your receiving performs 100% test IAW the scoped standard, then they
would probably accept the component if the report specifies the mfr and test
requirements in the construction details.

luck,
Brian
 

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf 
 > Of Jon Griver
 > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:32 PM
 > To: [email protected]
 > Subject: Fw: NRTL Factory Inspection Question ...
 > 
 > 
 > Doug,
 > 
 > CENELEC has a document, CCA-201, "Factory Inspection Procedures, CCA 
 > Harmonized Requirements", which defines the manufacturer's 
 > premises/factory 
 > location as "the location where the final assembly and/or testing of 
 > certified products normally takes place and the 
 > Certification Mark is 
 > applied".
 > 
 > The document also defines sub-contractors and out-workers, 
 > but states that 
 > inspecting them is the manufacturer's responsibility.
 > 
 > In my experience the European Test Houses use this document 
 > as guidelines 
 > for their own procedures. I don't know if the document is 
 > used by NRTL's. 
 > but at least the NRTL's with European main offices should 
 > know of the 
 > document.
 > 
 > In my experience, labelling the certified product is 
 > literally a symbolic 
 > act. The substantive act is final assembly and testing, 
 > particularly safety 
 > testing (hipot, etc.) if this is necessary for the product, 
 > and this defines 
 > where inspection should take place.
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > Jon Griver
 > http://www.601help.com
 > The Medical Device Designer's Guide to IEC 60601-1
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > > Recently, I had a discussion with an NTRL regarding 
 > product factory 
 > > inspections.
 > > I was under the impression that where the label was 
 > applied, that was 
 > > where
 > > the factory inspection would occur. And, if the contract 
 > noted a different
 > > company where the manfacturing was done and being that was 
 > typically
 > > (not always) where the lable was applied, that was 
 > inspections would 
 > > happen.
 > >
 > > Not so, according to these people. This was in response to 
 > a hypothetical
 > > situation I gave them to consider.
 > >
 > > For instance, say your company has sells a product in your 
 > companys name.
 > > But, you have assembly done at any number of contractors. 
 > And the NRTL
 > > label is applied at your company. Even if the contractors 
 > aren't on the
 > > contract with the NRTL for whatever reason, the factory 
 > inspector will
 > > inspect as much as possible the product at your site, then 
 > inspect the
 > > contractor site even though it is not on the contract. 
 > Basically at their
 > > discretion.
 > >
 > > The result of this is ... if say your company has ten 
 > contractors on a 
 > > list
 > > of approved vendors with which do business (just as an 
 > example for the
 > > sake of argument) for possible assembly contracts and at 
 > any time you
 > > do business with just one of those contractors, this all 
 > really means you
 > > must inform the NRTL of all ten 'posible' manufactoring 
 > locations and
 > > all ten, including your own company, are to be inspected 
 > on a quarterly
 > > basis and thus increase your factory inspection cost by a 
 > factor of 10.
 > >
 > > For some reason, this all sounds a little unreasonable to me.
 > >
 > > What say you?
 > >
 > > Regards, Doug McKean


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