Scott, A test standard or a product family/product standard or a generic standard is ratified/adopted by CEN/CENELEC/ETSI and therefore "applicable" as a normal standard (product liabillity!!!) but NOT under the "CE regime" until the publication in the OJEU! That is a time problem because e. g. the "LVD standards list" will be updated once a year (last publication was on 2006-08-30 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Lex riServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2006:208:0001:0089:EN:PDF in the OJEU WITHOUT the new versions of EN 60204-1:2006 or EN 60950-1:2006 for example!!!!). We had some difficult discussions in the past 3 weeks with different statements of the German Ministry. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Yours sincerely Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Chairman of the Product Conformity Group (DIN ANP German Committee of Standards Users) GLOBALNORM - Global Regulatory Compliance NEW (valid from: 2006-08-21) Fon: +49 30 3229027-50, Direct Call: -51 Fax: +49 30 3229027-59 Alt-Moabit 94 10559 Berlin Germany www.globalnorm.ca www.Globalnorm.de
----- Original Message ----- From: sbarr...@curtis-straus.com To: M. Loerzer-Mobile (GLOBALNORM) <mailto:loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de> Cc: EMC-PSTC <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> ; Glyn Garside <mailto:ggars...@us.tuv.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment ) However, it is my understanding that if it has not been published in the OJ, it doesn't exist as a valid test standard yet?? Scott "M. Loerzer-Mobile \(GLOBALNORM\)" <loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de> 09/12/2006 04:35 PM To "Glyn Garside" <ggars...@us.tuv.com>, Scott Barrows/USA/VERITAS@VERITAS cc "EMC-PSTC" <emc-p...@ieee.org> Subject Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment ) That is one of our big problems in Europe: CENELEC/CEN/ETSI are publishing new standards e.g. EN 60204-1:2006-06 but the commission don´t publish these reference "just in time"! Therefore the new standards haven´t a "presumption of conformity" in the meaning of the "new approach"! We have a long list of new standards under the Low Voltage Directive, EMC, R&TTE Directive, PPE, Toy, Medical and so on with the same problem! We inform our database users about this "special situation" of european harmonized standards. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Yours sincerely Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Chairman of the Product Conformity Group (DIN ANP German Committee of Standards Users) GLOBALNORM - Global Regulatory Compliance NEW (valid from: 2006-08-21) Fon: +49 30 3229027-50, Direct Call: -51 Fax: +49 30 3229027-59 Alt-Moabit 94 10559 Berlin Germany <http://www.globalnorm.ca/> www.globalnorm.ca <http://www.globalnorm.de/> www.Globalnorm.de ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:sbarr...@curtis-straus.com> sbarr...@curtis-straus.com To: <mailto:ggars...@us.tuv.com> Glyn Garside Cc: <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> EMC-PSTC Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment ) Hi All, I notice that the new EN 60204-1 was not included on the applicable standards?? Scott - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/> http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: <http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html> http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc