Hello Peter,
for this issue we have developed the „DoC-Manager“ with an interface to our standards management software GLOBALNORM. If you are interested we can present this tool via a telephoe conference. I also attend the IEEE PSES symposium in Boston and we have a booth at the exhibition if you are going to Boston. Kind regards Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Das neue Buch zum Thema "Product Compliance": http://www.beuth.de/sc/produktkonformitaet <http://www.beuth.de/sc/produktkonformitaet> (Produktkonformität, Prozesse, Risikomanagement, CE-Kennzeichnung, Fallbeispiele für Geschäftsführung, Konstruktion, Normenabteilung, Vertrieb, Einkauf, Produktion, QM) _________________________________________ Globalnorm GmbH Alt-Moabit 94 10559 Berlin Fon +49 30 3229027-51 Mobile +49 170 3229027 Fax +49 30 3229027-59 Mail michael.loer...@globalnorm.de <mailto:michael.loer...@globalnorm.de> www.globalnorm.de <http://www.globalnorm.de/> www.globalnorm.ca <http://www.globalnorm.ca/> www.product-compliance.com <http://www.product-compliance.com/> _________________________________________ Globalnorm GmbH, Sitz der Gesellschaft: Alt-Moabit 94, 10559 Berlin Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg HRB 105204 B, USt-ID-Nummer: DE251654448 Von: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Im Auftrag von peterh...@aol.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Oktober 2010 05:50 An: brian_ku...@lecotc.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Betreff: Re: Updating EU DoC Thank you all for your positive feedback. The changes that we make is not component related, but it is mainly related to change in standards. For example, EN60950-1 1st edition to 2nd edition. So product itself has hardly changed but rather the Directive or standard has changed and therefore we need to reflect these in the new DoC. How would you handle such cases? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Kunde, Brian <brian_ku...@lecotc.com> To: emc-pstc <emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent: Mon, Oct 11, 2010 10:51 am Subject: RE: Updating EU DoC Power is control and control is power and once someone has the power it is difficult for them to give it up. I fought like crazy to not have our DOCs controlled through our Documentation Control department to avoid many of the problems you are having. They have to be control somehow but I keep track of them within our Compliance Department. How I was able to avoid ECN control of the DOC is on the DOC itself I reworded the statement to say; “The product herewith displaying the CE marking complies with the requirements of the……” So I argued that the CE compliance is not based on the DOC but on the CE Marking which is ECN controlled. The DOC just shows what the CE marking means at the time it was generated. As far as the DOC generation, we keep the information on all products in a database which includes the last audit date and other information that would appear on the DOC. When we pull up a DOC for any product, the DOC is dynamically generated with all the appropriate dates and information. We just print/save it to a .pdf file and store it in an archive area on our Intranet/network Page where the Sales/Marketing and Manuals departments have READ access. I’m the only one in the company with WRITE access to these folder so only I can change the DOCs. We also archive all the old DOCs incase someone wants to pull a copy of an old version. I hope this was helpful. The Other Brian ________________________________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of peterh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:38 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Updating EU DoC Hello group, I am looking to see how you folks generate and update your EU DOC. We use the typical MS Word template and every time there is a need for an update, we update this document and have to go through ECO (Engineering Change Order) since it is a controlled document and I found this process to be very time consuming and not really efficient in particular when you have over 100 DOC's to maintain. 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