In message <000e01c8eb7d$615b4570$7200a8c0@PC323541548743>, dated Mon, 
21 Jul 2008, 'Rich Nute' <rn...@san.rr.com> writes:


>Once you understand the concepts, the new standard is not "radical."


I think the situation is far more complex than can be embraced in a 
simple statement. There is a question about what 'radical' means, 
anyway.

>It is a new and logical way of thinking about safety.  Once this new 
>way of thinking is mastered, safety becomes an engineering discipline, 
>much less arbitrary, and not a standards check-off process.

In my opinion, there is little 'wrong' and very much that is 'right' 
abut the hazard-based principle (HBP). But its adoption is only one 
aspect of the new standard. It would be misguided to criticize the 
standard just because it adopts the HBP.

During the development of the standard, it has been opined by people not 
involved in the development of the standard who have spoken to me about 
it that:

  - the HBP is not applicable to every type of hazard, or not applicable 
in a simple way;

  - where it is applicable, the HBP does not, in all cases, give detailed 
guidance right down to detailed requirements, leaving an opening for 
arbitrary, or at least unjustified, requirements to be adopted;

  - where the application of the HBP to certain hazards has resulted in 
much controversy, those hazards have simply been eliminated from the 
current drafts, which is not a satisfactory solution;

  - the development of the standard has been severely compromised by the 
timetable imposed by the IEC management on standards development, which 
are probably valid for a 'normal' standard development, but for such a 
large and complex project should not have been applied (exemptions are 
allowed under IEC rules if applied for at the required stages in the 
development);

  - the requirements that have been chosen in order to respect the 
application of the HBP are not the only possible requirements that would 
respect it, others would be more appropriate and easier to implement;

  - the detailed implementation of the HBP to some hazards has led to 
different and far more stringent requirements than are in 60065 or 
60950-1, whereas those standards are found by experience to ensure a 
satisfactory level of safety.
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