The multiple listing service works fairly simply at Underwriters Laboratories. The original equipment manufacturer (OEM) makes the product and holds the primary UL file. The OEM maintains control over that file. For the sake of this discussion, I will call the customer, who wants their name on the product, "Company 2". There are two options to place another company name or trademark on the product. The first is to replace the OEM's name with the Company 2 name. The OEM then needs to update their UL file to show the alternate marking (Company 2 name or logo and Company 2 model number) in the OEM's UL file. The The code or file number marked with the UL mark is still the OEM's identifier. Only the OEM needs a UL file and Company 2 doesn't have to work with UL or pay any UL fees. However, a savvy customer can use the code on the UL mark to track the product back to the OEM. The second option is what is often called Multiple Listing. The OEM and Company 2 sign a multiple listing agreement with UL. A second UL file is created under the Company 2 name. However, it is basically a place holder with no constructional information. It only points back to the OEM's UL file and gives correlation data. The advantage is that this method allows the use of the Company 2 UL file coding. A customer looking up the file at the UL On-Line Certifications Database will find it linked only to Company 2 and can't easily trace it to the OEM. In both cases, the OEM handles the certification tasks. Only the OEM can manufacture the product and UL inspections are done at the OEM factory. The multiple listing only allows a different marking on the product. Company 2 doesn't submit products for UL inspection. They handle all of their work on paper only. The OEM has the responsibility to build the product correctly, maintain the UL file and resolve variations. Multiple Listing is designed to reduce the traceability from Company 2 to the OEM from the eyes of customers. Regulators can still trace the product back to the OEM through UL's internal systems. http://www.ul.com/multiplelisting/ Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> Subject: Multiple listing To: "'Grace Lin'" <graceli...@gmail.com>, emc-p...@ieee.org Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:28 AM It said multiple listing is a terminology used in UL world long time ago. It does not exist in TUV laboratories and they have other complicated name. That is just a declaration of identical product with just different name and/or cosmetics from the client, not from the test laboratory. As the multiple listing report issued by the test laboratory mis-leads the commercial sector to believe that the testing laboratory has verified the sample they received to be identical. The laboratory just collects the DoI from the client and issues certificate or covering with new model number. Please correct me if the understanding is inaccurate. Regards, Scott From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:35 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Dear Dennis and Others, Thank you very much for your reply online and offline. I contacted Industry Canada as suggested. IC refers to RSP-100 for an answer. I excerpt a section below for your reference. Best regards, Grace " 5.3 Multiple Listing Multiple listing of a certified model is required when a manufacturer or distributor wishes to list under its name and unique model number, certified equipment of an original equipment manufacturer (OEM). A model of equipment may be multiple-listed to other manufacturers or distributors based upon the approval granted to the original applicant and certificate holder. In order to obtain a multiple-listing certification, the following documentation must be submitted to the Bureau: (a) the model number and certification number of the approved equipment; (b) a signed letter from the original applicant and certificate holder authorizing the Department to use information on file to grant a multiple-listing certification. The name/model number and certification number of the radio equipment must be shown. The letter must also declare that the model to be multiple-listed is identical in design and construction to the originally approved model; (c) a letter, from the applicant, requesting the certification; (d) completed and signed original copies of Appendix A and Appendix B; (e) completed and signed copies of Appendix A and Appendix B of RSS-102 - Radio Frequency Exposure Compliance of Radiocommunication Apparatus (All Frequency Bands); and (f) a drawing, sample or illustration of the product label. " On 9/9/08, dward <dw...@atcb.com> wrote: HI Grace While it may be a desire of a marketing company to use their name, they are not the certificate holder and thus putting only the marketing companies name on the device would be incorrect. The standard is pretty clear on this issue. The "the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number" are to be on the device label. This however, does not mean that in addition to these the marketing companies name cannot be on the device. It should be remembered that the intent of the IC requirements is to identify the device and link it to the manufacturer/applicant and the model number and IC number. If a more specific interpretation from the IC is desired you may also contact certification.bur...@ic.gc.ca. Thanks Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American TCB Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com <http://www.atcb.com/> 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Dear Members, Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number? I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? Thank you and look forward to hear from you. Best regards, Grace Lin " All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon agreement with Industry Canada. The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human body, can be placed on the package and user manual. The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number ( UPN ), assigned by the applicant. The certification number shall appear as follows: "IC: XXXXXX-YYYYYYYYYYY" Where: * "XXXXXX-YYYYYYYYYYY" is the certification number; * "XXXXXX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada, made of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; * "YYYYYYYYYYY" is the Unique Product Number ( UPN ) assigned by the applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the Industry Canada certification number. Permitted alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is not allowed. Equipment that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's name, model number and the certification number as outlined above is not considered certified. Category II equipment shall be labelled in accordance with the requirements of RSS -310. " - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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