I believe the lawyers will tell you that they never ask a question in court unless they already know the answer. Sounds like point 4 below follows the same line of thought.
Ack! Who ever thought I'd be saying something good about lawyers? A sure sign of the apocalypse! Ghery Pettit From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of rn...@san.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:10 PM To: 'Brian O'Connell'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: ...free advice... Hi Brian: > 4. Even if I do not submit test data to an agency > or test house, I NEVER send a sample to the safety or EMC > labs without performing in-house tests that indicate > conformity to all checked clauses that I checked in the > applicable CBTR form - so I always know that there is a good > margin. This is EXTREMELY GOOD ADVICE! If you want your product to go through the certification process without any hitches, follow this advice. > 5. When a test house or safety agency rejects my > data, or indicates a failed sample, I NEVER accept their > requirements or test data at face value. If you have tested your product and you KNOW that it passes, then you can have a productive argument with the test house about the failure. > 6. I never accept a > passing agency report at face value. I verify that all agency > test data will support all applicable clauses in the safety > std. Well... here I disagree. The certification report is written for the cert house to prove to itself that the product passes the tests and complies with the standard. It takes a lot of time and effort to read the cert report and request changes. Who benefits from making those changes? The only time when this is important is when the cert report is used in the CB scheme, where other cert houses will verify some of the tests and construction. If the other cert house finds a problem, then the cert is held up until it is resolved by you working with the original cert house to get a revised CB report. Best regards, Rich - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>