I am interested. I am a user of Teseq C3 patiently awaiting C5. David Gray
From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:46 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Radiated Immunity Software Hi Brian, I can do that for you, but maybe privately is best? I don't want to be seen as spamming the list. Or is anyone else interested? Cheers, The only Derek :-) Kunde, Brian wrote: > > All, > > We started out years ago with a purchased EMC test program but there > were few pros and many cons, such as high costs ($15K US), many bugs, > limitations, and a lot of man-hours required to setup the software to > do what you wanted. After years of frustration, be changed gears and > started writing our own software in Labview but this is not without > its issues. > > I would hope by now the new canned EMC test software would be a lot > better. Maybe someone can give specific details about how these new > programs work. E.G.: > > What test methods are supported? Substitution Method? Level On Forward > Power? Level on Field Probe? > > Does the software support the Calibration tests? Unified Field? Both > methods called out in the standard? > > Does the software support Field Probe Positioners? (we have one and it > is sweet) > > During testing, can you change the volt/per/meter on the fly? > > Can you simply change the modulation method used? > > Does it have troubleshoot modes? Step forward, backward, change power > level, go to specific frequency, change step rate and size on the fly? > > If some of the new software has made huge improvements over the years, > maybe it would be something to look at even if you are a lab that have > in the past written your own software. > > Something to think about. > > ONE LAST Question: How do YOU perform Radiated Immunity Test? What > test method do you use? > > Our software levels on forward power at each frequency, then turns on > the modulation. The forward power is calculated from a 16 point > calibration test ran at 18V/m. Any power level between 1 and 10V/m is > calculated and leveled at each frequency on the fly during the test. > Is this how most labs perform this test or do they use the old > substitution method or loop on field probe? > > Does canned test software normally support all the different test methods? > > Thanks, > > The Other Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Derek > Walton > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42 AM > To: Kate Savo > Cc: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Radiated Immunity Software > > Hi All, > > I was a little too tied up to respond to this when it was first posted, > > but I feel I should. First off... a bias warning.... I have a history > > with Teseq's C3 software. OTOH, I have written and used EMC software for > > about 30 years now. > > So, knowing most packages out there, I still feel Teseq's C3 is the > > leader, especially the immunity package. Not only is it compliant to the > > latest standards, but it's a standardized package. What this means is > > that a problem fixed in an installation somewhere gets fixed in yours > > automatically next release. It's released consistently to add features, > > stay current and yep, fix the odd bug. > > C3 was written by Software writers under guidance from many EMC > > engineers and not EMC engineers playing software writer. There is a big > > difference. For those that like to write their own code, you have the > > flexibility to write your own test methods. > > A very neat feature is an area where you can easily interface with what > > ever is being tested for closed loop testing. > > While not formally announced by the factory, a complete rewrite of the > > emissions and immunity packages called C5 should be released early next > > year. For some reason C4 is being skipped :-). > > If you have specific engineering questions feel free to ask me off list. > > Cheers, > > Derek Walton > > L F Research > > Kate Savo wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ted, > > > > > > This question was posted on /Interference Technology's/ Testing Forum, > > > and received a few replies. To view the reply, please visit the link > > > below. > > > > > > http://www.interferencetechnology.com/technologies/testing/forums.html?t x_mmforum_pi1%5Baction%5D=list_post&tx_mmforum_pi1%5Btid%5D=157 > > > > <http://www.interferencetechnology.com/technologies/testing/forums.html? tx_mmforum_pi1%5Baction%5D=list_post&tx_mmforum_pi1%5Btid%5D=157> > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kate Savo > > > > > > /Interference Technology Forums Editor/ > > > > > > www.interferencetechnology.com/ <http://www.interferencetechnology.com/> > > > > > > 484-688-0300 ext 26 > > > > > > ks...@interferencetechnology.com > > > <mailto:ks...@interferencetechnology.com>// > > > > > > *From:* Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:07 PM > > > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > > > *Subject:* [PSES] Radiated Immunity Software > > > > > > We are looking for a good software package for performing Radiated > > > Immunity testing to IEC 61000-4-3 in our own in-house anechoic > > > chamber. 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