> The best reason I have heard from a flight attendant (this happened only once) for putting the computer away >was " do you want a 5 pound projectile flying around the cabin if there is an incident". >You cannot argue with that logic.
I don't think it makes any difference in the end if a 5 pound object is able to be projected due to sudden deceleration anyway....or can it ?? I do not want to be with that flight attendant either... Gert Gremmen Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Gartman, Richard Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2009 16:33 Aan: Ken Javor; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: Article on "portable electronics" aboard airplanes The best reason I have heard from a flight attendant (this happened only once) for putting the computer away was " do you want a 5 pound projectile flying around the cabin if there is an incident". You cannot argue with that logic. Does any on have the report of the KLM/FCC cell phone test that was done in Phoenix several years back. As I hear the story, a KLM "Boeing" aircraft was filled with cell phones (one in each seat) and they all went active at the same time. The intent was to see if a plane loaded with cell phones could cause interruption to the aircrafts electronics. I am sure this group would enjoy that report. Have a great day W. Richard Gartman, MS, CSP From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:18 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Article on "portable electronics" aboard airplanes While having stuff put away during take-off and landing makes sense, just as you say, protection of aircraft radio and navigation receivers is the primary driver. Paralleling control of rfi on the ground, the first such rfi control only applied to radios, because of local oscillators, and then later applied to digital electronics, because the clocks and their harmonics could radiate just like the radio's LO could. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: Nick Williams <nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk> > Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:02:55 +0100 > To: Ken Wyatt <k...@emc-seminars.com> > Cc: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: Article on "portable electronics" aboard airplanes > > I've always understood that, certainly so far as commercial airliners > are concerned, EMC was never really the issue. Far more to the point > is the fact that take off and landing are statistically the most > likely time for there to be an emergency which requires the > passengers to be paying attention to what the cabin attendants have > to say rather than listening to or fiddling with their personal > possessions. > > It also can't do any harm for the cabin not to be cluttered up with > laptops and other junk for people to trip over if you need to get > everyone off in a hurry. > > Nick. > > > > At 22:26 -0600 23/9/09, Ken Wyatt wrote: >> I thought I'd post this link to a semi-rant by one of the Gizmodo >> editors on the use of electronics aboard aircraft. He brings up some >> good points regarding the EMI properties of various gadgets. It's >> also interesting how he and other non-EMCers think on the whole >> subject. >> >> Has anyone on this list studied the emissions characteristics ("on" >> versus sleep mode) for various portable electronic products? >> >> I'd love to not be hassled when using my Bose headphones. >> >> http://gizmodo.com/5366128/giz-explains-how-to-fix-the-airlines-stupid-p ortab >> le-gadget-rules >> >> Regards, Ken >> ---------------------------------------------- >> Wyatt Technical Services, LLC >> 56 Aspen Dr. >> Woodland Park, CO 80863 >> > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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