John,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Woodgate" <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk>
>
> In most countries, that technique (TN-C-S) is used only if the combined 
> neutral and grounded conductor is grounded at many places, so that if it 
> breaks, load current is distributed among the grounding points and remains 
> at safe values in all conductors.

Currently only 3-wire installations are made here, but I was speaking about 
old ones. Even if each flat had its own grounding the problem can appear 
between rooms, specially because there were no direct connection from main 
entrance point to each socket, but there were plenty connections on the way 
in the connection boxes under the ceiling over each socket.

> Your point, effectively about SELV being preferred to PELV where the power 
> circuit protection is by fuses, is valid, being the lesser of two evils 
> (increased risk of electric shock, versus increased risk of fire, if 
> segregation is violated).

I disagree (or I misunderstood). In my opinion in such installations SELV 
gives less risk of electric shock and less risk of fire. I see the question 
should be: How more safety PELV gives in new installations and how less in 
old ones. Then these coefficients should be multiplied by the ratio of new 
installations to old installations and at some date will be (or was been) 
the point when PELV becomes statistically more safety, but it is really hard 
to count it.

Piotr Galka 

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