Of course, having said that someone will probably pull out of the hat the one instance where some obscure intentional radiator was DoC. Never say never
Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American TCB Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: Dennis Ward [mailto:dw...@atcb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:36 PM To: 'Gartman, Richard'; 'Reginald Henry'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: FCC ** LOGO vs Verification Label RequirementT*** HI Richard I do not think that is indicated in my response. Intentional radiators are certified and not DoC'd. There are a couple rare instances where certain intentional radiators may be verified, but they are never DoC'd. In other words DoC does not apply to intentional radiators. In the mention of a receiver there is an instance where a standalone receiver could be DoC'd. However, when the receiver is part of the transceiver (transmitter and receiver in one unit) and the transmitter portion is certified, the receiver is only verified. DoC basically applies to only unintentional radiators but does not apply to verified devices. 15.101 gives the list of what can and cannot be DoC'd Hope this clears it up a little. Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American TCB Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: Gartman, Richard [mailto:rgart...@ti.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 2:34 PM To: Dennis Ward; 'Reginald Henry'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: FCC ** LOGO vs Verification Label RequirementT*** Dennis, As I read your description, the FCC logo is for use only on intentional radiators, such as wireless access points or clients, which require FCC certification. Is this correct? W. Richard Gartman, MS, CSP Product Stewardship Manager Texas Instruments, Education Technology 7800 Banner Drive, Dallas, Tx 75251 Office: 972-917-1636 Email: rgart...@ti.com Fax: 972-917-0668 URL: www.education.ti.com www.education.ti.com/us/productstewardship Please consider the environment before printing this email. There is only one earth - don't waste it. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Ward Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:10 PM To: 'Reginald Henry'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: FCC ** LOGO vs Verification Label RequirementT*** By FCC logo I take it that you mean the DoC logo. If so, the DoC logo only applies under certain situations and is not for general use. Typically the FCC LOGO only applies and can only be used in those instances where the device can be certified or DoC'd. The devices that can use the DoC logo are found in CFR 47 15.101 and include such things as Class B computer peripheral device (class A cannot use the DoC logo), CB receivers, Superregenerative receivers, all other receivers subject to part 15 (receiver that tune between 30-960MHz only and which are not verified as part of a transceiver the transmitter of which is certified), TV interface devices, cable system terminal device, CPU boards and internal power supplies used in Class B personal computers, Class B personal computers assembled using authorized boards and power supplies. No other device is supposed to or should use the DoC logo. Too many times, because of misinformation etc, companies try to put the DoC logo on digital devices that are not subject to certification or DoC and Class A computers or other type devices. For an exact definition of what can and cannot have the DoC logo you should refer to CFR47 15.101, Subpart J of part 2 namely 2.906. It should also be noted that testing for DoC must be done not only by an accredited lab but ONLY by an accredited lab having an MRA with the US or on US soil. Thanks Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American TCB Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Reginald Henry Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:39 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: FCC ** LOGO vs Verification Label RequirementT*** All, Every few years I am asked this question. When should the FCC Logo be applied to a product vs. the FCC Statement . As I recall if the product is... 1) Meant for commercial use 2) An unintentional radiator 3) tested to be verified ( results of tests NOT maintained by the FCC ) by an independent lab to meet the FCC requirements IF ALL ABOVE IT TRUE THEN... the FCC statement (should be applied to the product and the manual. 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