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--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Ron Pickard, RPQ <rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> wrote: > From: Ron Pickard, RPQ <rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> > Subject: RE: Interesting Article > To: "'Bill Owsley'" <wdows...@yahoo.com> > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 12:08 AM > Bill, > > > > Don’t get me started. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ron Pickard > > RPQ Consulting > > Glendale, AZ 85303 > > +623.512-3451 tel, +623.848-9033 fax > > <mailto:rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> > rpick...@rpqconsulting.com > > www.rpqconsulting.com <http://www.rpqconsulting.com/> > > > www.linkedin.com/in/RonPickard > > _____ > > From: Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:44 PM > To: Edward''Price; rpick...@rpqconsulting.com > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: Interesting Article > > > > > The recent political election process here in the USA > demonstrated the > validity herd orientation via the electromagnetic media > fields and it > continues today with stampeding of congressional votes in > one direction for > stimulus packages. > > - Bill > Indecision may or may not be the problem. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Ron Pickard, RPQ > <rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> wrote: > > > From: Ron Pickard, RPQ <rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> > Subject: RE: Interesting Article > To: "'Price, Edward'" > <ed.pr...@cubic.com> > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 10:27 PM > > Why stop with magnetic orientation? I think you’re onto > something with herd > behavior. A study (grant funded of course) should be > carried out to test > cattle vectoring (herd behavior) through applied > electromagnetics. The > magnetic part would be needed to dynamically orient the > cows and the electro > part would be needed to get them moving. GPS positioning > would be used to > monitor the process and provide feedback to control herd > movement. In the > end, just think how many farmers would benefit from this > new technology by > simply pushing a button to have his dairy herd come in all > by itself on time > from the pasture for whatever reason without anyone having > to go out into > the pasture to find, collect and herd them back to the > barn. Push another > button and off they go back to the pasture. I know my > grandfather would’ve > liked to have had something like that as well as me and my > brother during > our summers there. > > > > And, why stop there. I sure there would be thousands of > other applications. > :-) > > > > Also Brian, you are correct with your comment about > virtually no level > surfaces in New York State . BTW, as a former upstate NY > resident I’m > curious as to which part of NY were you referring to (there > being so many > places there that fit your description)? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ron Pickard > > RPQ Consulting > > Glendale, AZ 85303 > > +623.512-3451 tel, +623.848-9033 fax > > > <http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rpick...@rpqconsulting.com> > rpick...@rpqconsulting.com > > <http://www.rpqconsulting.com/> > www.rpqconsulting.com > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/RonPickard> > www.linkedin.com/in/RonPickard > > > > _____ > > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On > Behalf Of Price, > Edward > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:04 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: Interesting Article > > > > Let's try de-perming them first, with a big solenoid > coil, big enough to > walk them through. 800 A/M for a start? > > > > Herd behavior might be helpful; might act like a mutual > coupling to increase > the collective Q. > > > > Ed Price > > ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN > > NARTE Certified EMC Engineer > > Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab > > Cubic Defense Applications > > San Diego, CA USA > > 858-505-2780 > > Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty > > > > _____ > > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On > Behalf Of Doug Nix > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:10 PM > To: k...@earthlink.net > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: Interesting Article > > Cortland, > > > > Interesting grant proposal. How would you plan to control > for herd > behaviour, since that may have direct influence on the cows > desire to align > themselves relative to each other... > > > > Doug > > > <http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=d...@mac.com> > d...@mac.com > > Find me near 43°24'24.96"N > 80°24'25.95"W. > > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 19:22, Cortland Richmond wrote: > > > > It is an interesting item. The news reports I've heard > are that the > observations show cattle aligned N/S except under HV power > lines (I have not > yet read the article.) The conclusion that cattle align > themselves with the > Earth's magnetic field at all is based on one > assumption, that the alignment > is due to magnetic fields and not because (say) they're > warming themselves > in the sunlight or some terrain influence. That power > lines cause them to > lose the ability to sense magnetic fields is based on TWO > assujmtions, and > needs a closer look. > > > > If, as in some animals known to sense North, cattle do > sense the magnetic > field by way of magnetite particles, and if those are small > enough, it is > POSSIBLE they might no longer sense North due to the AC > fields under power > lines moving those particles around. > > > > I should apply for a grant to install inductors on a herd > of cattle, and > DC/AC converters, so that I might selectively induce AC > magnetic fields on > selected bovines and see if they fail to align with the > herd. > > > > Heh! > > > > Cortland Richmond > > KA5S. > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering > Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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