Ted, Clause 5.1.2 of OD-CB2039-Ed.1.0 - ACCEPTANCE OF COMPONENTS WITHIN THE IECEE CB SCHEME AND COMPONENT ACCEPTANCE MATRIX covers the CB requirements for "Component without a CB Test Certificate". I would suggest the UL engineer familiarises himself with this CB Scheme Operational & Rulings Document. Regards, Craig
________________________________ From: Pickard, Ron [mailto:ron.pick...@intermec.com] Sent: 11 February 2009 16:10 To: Petrie, Craig D; Carr, Ted Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC acceptance of component guidelines require CB Licensing of components. Indeed, I have also seen many CB reports including components without their own CB docs. Those components are typically found in the critical components list of a CB report and are usually have demonstrable compliance to an international safety standard (UL even accepts UL compliance in some cases), in which I have never seen any reference to a component’s CB certificate. We do not know what types of components are in question so we cannot give better advice, but a voice conversation with that UL certifier is recommended. IHTH. Best regards, Ron Pickard ron.pick...@intermec.com <mailto:ron.pick...@intermec.com> ________________________________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Petrie, Craig D Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:19 AM To: Carr, Ted; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC acceptance of component guidelines require CB Licensing of components. Ted, By CB license I assume you mean CB certificate. CB certificates are generally not required for components used for "building in". I have seen many IT products achieve CB certification using AC filters which do not have a CB certificate. Indeed I was not aware, and do not believe, it is possible to obtain a CB certificate for such a component. Regards, Craig ________________________________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carr, Ted Sent: 11 February 2009 14:55 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: IEC acceptance of component guidelines require CB Licensing of components. Hi, I'm in the process of renewing a CB License for an ITE Terminal and in the final review by the UL International Certification office additional information was require. The information requested was CB licensing for certain components. My problem is the manufacturer's of the components don't have CB licenses. For example one component was a standard AC input filter by a known company which on has UL, cUL and VDE approvals. Is there a way passed the rules interpretation of requiring a CB License for this component? Regards, Ted Carr CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this email are confidential and for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you receive this email in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify us either by email, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward, or otherwise disclose the content of the email. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>