Hi Chas,
that's not too bad, even for Denver... My usual airport is O'Hare...
On 3/19/2012 11:20 AM, Grasso, Charles wrote:
Hi Derek - That's true..especially if there is a hangup at the gate or
on the taxi way. My recent experiences on flights were that the "dark time"
is about 20mins either side of the flight - not too bad.
Best Regards
Charles Grasso
Compliance Engineer
Echostar Communications
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(c) 303-204-2974
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-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:37 AM
To: Grasso, Charles
Cc: Ken Javor; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?
Hi Chas,
as a frequent flier, that take off and taxi period can be many many
minutes... and has taken hours at which time a PED would be most welcome.
Derek.
On 3/19/2012 10:30 AM, Grasso, Charles wrote:
Hello Ken - I agree with your position. Turning off edevices
for a few minutes in a flight is a minimal inconvenience at best.
However (and this is a little tongue in cheek!) if the
manufacturers of these devices either were made to comply with
DO160 emissions requirements for edevices specifically for use on
aircraft then those passengers that MUST read in those critical few
minutes can do so.
Best Regards
Charles Grasso
Compliance Engineer
Echostar Communications
(w) 303-706-5467
(c) 303-204-2974
(t) 3032042...@vtext.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:28 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?
Yeah Ed, I get it - I'm an out-of-touch old fogey. But in a sense it
doesn't matter as long as the FAA enforces a level playing field and all
airlines have the same rules. The flying public simply has to deal with it.
Look at what the TSA has done to airport security. Because of that, I drive
to customer locations within a 1.5 day driving radius rather than deal with
the hassle and indignity of the lines and procedures.
[If the FAA reversed course and allowed cell phone use on aircraft (which
wouldn't be a safety problem at all due to the spectral use being
out-of-band to any present day aircraft radio reception) by facilitating an
in-plane "cell tower," I might have to expand my driving radius cut-off to
two days. Due to the inconvenience of listening to everyone yelling into
their phones about topics in which I have little interest...]
The numbers of flyers haven't dropped at all as the TSA has made the
procedures ever more time-consuming and invasive.
If the public can take the TSA, they can deal with the FAA unplugging them a
few minutes.
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
From: Ed Price<edpr...@cox.net>
Organization: ESP Labs
Reply-To:<edpr...@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 05:48:13 -0700
To:<emc-p...@ieee.org>
Subject: RE: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:28 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?
Given the above issues, it makes much more sense for the flying public to
remain unplugged for a few minutes at the beginning and end of every flight.
This isn't asking a lot.
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
It may not be such a sacrifice for you, Ken, but you are not representative
of the general public. Drivers can't give up their cell phones and texting
devices, despite considerable fines. Look at the behavior of crowds in a
shopping mall; it's almost unusual to find someone who is NOT carrying on an
electronic conversation. A few weeks ago, I stopped at the side of an aisle
in a Wal-Mart as I noticed a walker/talker directly approaching me. I was
curious about at what distance she would notice me; instead, she almost fell
into my cart. Despite the physical surprise, and giving me a nasty look, she
didn't even pause her conversation.
As you said, it makes more sense, but the general public isn't agreeable to
even a slight inconvenience.
Ed Price
El Cajon, CA
USA
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