Good to get updated info about IC, Dennis. Is there a fee to request a RF test report from Industry Canada? what is the process to get a copy of a IC test report may help many manafacturers/test labs. We do file confidentiality for our Block diagram, Schematic, theory of operation to IC. Not sure what part is kept confidential? Regards Christopher
________________________________ From: Dward <dw...@pctestlab.com> To: rpick...@rpqconsulting.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 9:35 AM Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information Sorry Ron but your information is quite outdated. It should not be assumed that Canada is a slam dunk for confidentiality or that all documents can be held confidential. While it is true that Canada (IC) does not go out of its way to make documents available, Canada does have a right to access law, and Canadians can request documents that do not have confidentiality requested by the manufacturer. Also, due to this “Right to know” law, Canada, at least recently, has refused to accept confidentiality to test reports, user manuals, internal and external photos. They allow confidentiality for block diagrams, schematics, operational descriptions, parts lists and tune up procedures. Canada also does NOT have a temporary confidentiality system. A Canadian confidentiality request can contain items such as manuals and internal photos, but before this is granted, IC must be contacted directly on a case by case basis. The days of everything confidential in Canada is over. Thanks Dennis Ward Senior Certification Engineer PCTEST This communication and its attachments contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc., and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient (s) named above. It may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. Any unauthorized use that may compromise that confidentiality via distribution or disclosure is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you receive this communication in error, and delete it from your computer system. From:Ron Pickard RPQ [mailto:rpick...@rpqconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 9:13 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information Previous contributors have given good information and I’ve had no experience in which a TCB or the FCC have charged extra for a confidentiality request. Here in the USA, details of what can/cannot be held confidential and under what conditions are generally found in FCC Part 0 (0.457-0.459 I believe). Also refer to Public Notice DA 04-1705 and the FCC’s marketing regulations found in FCC Part 2.803 for further guidance. In Canada, requests for 100% confidentiality are usually granted by Industry Canada (mostly because they don’t make any documents available on their REL listings page anyway). IHTH. I look forward to your reply. Best regards, Ron Pickard From:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Michael Derby Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:43 AM To: 'itl-emc user group'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information Hello, You cannot get confidentiality or even short term confidentiality on a test report. You can’t keep the results private, sorry. David is correct in his summary below. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From:itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: 30 January 2013 05:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information In my experience, TCB’s don’t charge extra for confidentiality unlike the FCC. I have not heard of short term confidentiality for a test report. Internal photos can be kept confidential only under certain circumstances such as the device being filled and sealed with epoxy. Permanent confidentiality request for schematics, block diagram and parts list is given without any problem. Regards, David Shidlowsky| Technical Writer Address1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 87, LOD 71100 Israel Tel972-8-9186113 Fax 972-8-9153101 mail...@itl.co.il/dav...@itl.co.il Web www.itl.co.il Fill out Customer Satisfaction Survey Global Certifications You Can Trust From:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mark Gandler Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:50 PM To: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information You can submit 180 days Short term request for confidentiality pretty much on most of the information (phots, manuals, test setup) and later on ask for 90 days extension. The longer the request higher the fee There is also an option for permanent confidentiality request on some of the more critical info: block diagram, schematics. There is also a fee for that. Mark ________________________________ From: edpr...@cox.net To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:27:46 -0800 Bill: Wow, I never knew about this source. This will keep me up all night! Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From:Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40 PM To: Ed Price Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/ and explore from there... > >________________________________ > >From:Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net> >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:05 PM >Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information > >I didn't realize that the FCC releases any information to the public, other >than cross-referencing to your approval status. Do you mean something like >the information in your FRN (FCC Registration Number) that you have in order >to do business with the FCC? > >BTW, I think it would be really great if I could access the test data >submitted to the FCC for things like Part 15 compliance. For one thing, as a >consumer, I could use that as a component of my purchasing decision. For >instance, if I were buying a DC to AC inverter, I could look at several and >be able to choose which one had the lowest emission signature, which is a >lot better than just the assurance that they all passed the limit. > >Ed Price >WB6WSN >Chula Vista, CA USA > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:47 PM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: [PSES] FCC & IC and Product Information > >Dear Members > >How long can we prevent the FCC or IC from releasing any testing/product >information to the public? > >Peter > >Sent from my iPhone > >Peter S. 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