Brian Reselling some other company's product in another region is known as gray-marketing. The model of laptop you acquire in the US might not be the one intended by the OEM for sale in Europe. Just because the OEM might be "well established", does not mean your company is acting according to their expectations and wishes. Unless you are covered by some sort of distribution agreement with the OEM, your company is probably on the hook for all non-compliances that might be present.
I think that the CE marking declaration is the responsibility of your company, though it could be based on the declaration you have received from your supplier. I don't the EU can hold an OEM responsible for a specific product unit they did not, in fact, place on the EU market. Imagine a company buying up your product in the 'states, adding a bell or whistle to it, and reselling the assembly in country X and your company being prosecuted for failure to translate your manual into the local language of country X. Would your company be responsible for that problem? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] new EMC Directive Charlie, Thanks for this information. It was most helpful. But, like always, I have a question. If I buy a Dell computer in the USA and ship it to Europe to sell as part of a system including hardware produce by our company, do I have to put our company's name and address on the Dell computer as the importer or because Dell is well established in Europe I only have to make sure this information is on the part that we manufacturer? In this case, are we a Dell importer when Dell already imports their products to Europe? I assume what the EU really wants is a name and address on the product of someone in Europe that they can get a hold of in case a non-compliance is discovered. Thanks for any clarification. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Blackham Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 3:29 AM To: Knighten, Jim L; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] new EMC Directive The changes are only (meant to be) an alignment of the EMCD with the NLF (New Legislative Framework) Decision 768/2008/EC. Requirements on manufacturers haven't really changed, but additional requirements are placed on those in the supply chain, set out in section 3.2 3.2. Obligations of economic operators and traceability requirements The proposal clarifies the obligations of manufacturers and authorised representatives and introduces obligations for importers and distributors. Importers must verify that the manufacturer has carried out the applicable conformity assessment procedure and has drawn up a technical documentation. They must also make sure with the manufacturer that this technical documentation can be made available to authorities upon request. Furthermore importers must verify that apparatus are correctly marked and accompanied by the required documentation. They must keep a copy of the Declaration of conformity and indicate their name and address on the product, or where this is not possible on the packaging or the accompanying documentation. Distributors must verify that apparatus bear the CE marking the name of the manufacturer and of the importer, if relevant, and that it is accompanied by the required documentation and instructions. Importers and distributors must cooperate with market surveillance authorities and take appropriate actions when they have supplied non-compliant apparatus. Enhanced traceability obligations are introduced for all economic operators. Apparatus have to bear the manufacturer's name and address and a number allowing to identify and link the apparatus to its technical documentation. When an apparatus is imported the importer's name and address must also be on the apparatus. Furthermore every economic operator must be able to identify towards authorities the economic operator who has supplied him with an apparatus or to whom he has supplied an apparatus Regards Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Knighten, Jim L [mailto:jim.knigh...@teradata.com] Sent: 09 May 2013 22:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] new EMC Directive Brian, Based on a quick reading, I think that for the case of manufacturers who take responsibility to self-declare compliance, the draft new directive makes few changes to the current rules. For the use of 3rd party experts (Conformity Assessment Bodies or Notified Bodies) who are used to conduct an "EU-type" examination of the product for the manufacturer or importer, there are numerous changes. Jim __________________________ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 858-485-3788 - fax (unattended) -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] new EMC Directive They, a grouping of 'them', met in December. Here is a synopsis: <http://www.metlabs.com/blog/emc/proposed-emc-directive-revision-has-new-not ified-body-requirements/> Perhaps the EMC experts of this august body can expound for the corps of unwashed compliance engineers. In a similar conspiracy, the FCC published a NPRM (FCC 13-39) for human exposure requirements. Brian -----Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:17 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: new EMC Directive I hear that there is a new EMC Directive being put forward. (The current directive is Directive EMC 2004/108/EC.) Does anyone know what changes this proposed new EMC Directive implements. Jim __________________________ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 858-485-3788 - fax (unattended) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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