On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:24:35 +0100, John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> It's known that this clause is inadequate and it will be reviewed, but > probably not very swiftly. It has been pointed out that the > capacitance between the EUT and the ground plane depends on the > permittivity of the support, which is not controlled. Thanks both for the responses. Actually, I didn't mind of permittivity of the insulating material so much, which is plastic or rubber wheel of the casters/rollers in this case. However, I mind of the possible ambiguities, such as: o If non conductive roller/casters part of the EUT can be used as the insulating support, how about commonplace casters like this? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Absolex_san.jpg If such casters can still be used as the insulating support, how about machine rollers like these ones, http://www.machineroller.com/ which are mostly metal but surface of the wheels are covered by plastic or rubber? o If such casters/rollers can be used as the insulating support, which position of the rollers/casters should positioned at the specified height of about 0.1m? Top of the caster/roller, or bottom of its metal component? o This standard didn't use the term "may" about this. However, if it is an option, it would be expected that one laboratory may put an EUT on the GRP without 0.1m support, and other laboratory may put the same EUT on 0.1m support. This will alter the distance between EUT's bottom surface and GRP, and can cause additional inconsistency of the test results between laboratories, I thought. At this time, we would need to put such EUTs on 0.1m insulating support for some other 61000-4-* standards anyway, and I think it would far easier to put such EUTs on 0.1m insulating support as far as possible also for 61000-4-4 testing. Regards, Tom -- Tomonori Sato <vef00...@nifty.ne.jp> URL: http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>