Brian, Are you sure? I have heard that CSA and UL are able to issue NRTL according to 3 rd Ed.
We are just in process for applying 2 projects according to 3rd Ed to CSA. Best regards, Bostjan SIQ On 12. avg. 2013, at 15:03, "Kunde, Brian" <brian_ku...@lecotc.com> wrote: > Regarding UL 61010-1 3rd Ed., how will we know when we can start using this > new standard? We currently use the 3rd Ed. for Europe because it becomes > mandatory in October, but our NRTL says we cannot use the 3rd Ed. in North > America yet. How will we know when we can? > > You are correct. It is very frustrating having to work with two different > versions of the same base standard for different markets. It more than > doubles our work load adding more cost and overhead to our products. > > The Other Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pete Perkins > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:12 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Cc: 'Scott Douglas' > Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards Dates > > Scott, et al, > > The cessation date is more flexible in the US than in Europe. > > UL has a Continuing Certification Program which has been in place for > some time which can be applied to certified products approved in the past. > > For instance, UL recently announced that this CCP will apply to > 61010 products which were certified under the 1st ed of the standard such > that those certified products may continue to be UL marked as long as no > changes are made in the construction as described in the UL Report. Any > changes, of course, force the evaluation the entire product to the newer > standard; this can especially become a problem when, thru no fault f the > product manufacturer, critical components disappear at end-of-mfg-life and > substitutions need to be made. > > The decision to use this program seems to be on a standard-by-standard > basis and is up to the UL STP responsible for the standard. All the STP > stakeholders have an opportunity to affect the decision to use (or not use) > the CCProgram so all interests ought to be served. > > This approach does not negate the EN approach to having definite > cessation dates (DOCOPOSS, as John W always points out - thank you very much > John) and will be a point of confusion & frustration for manufacturers who > work to serve a worldwide market with a single product. > > You should be able to determine if this is applicable in your case by > inquiry into the STP for your standard. > > :>) br, Pete > > Peter E Perkins, PE > Principal Product Safety Engineer > PO Box 23427 > Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 > > 503/452-1201 fone/fax > p.perk...@ieee.org > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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