Hi Michael, FYI, e-labelling is already permitted in the medical devices area and is covered by Regulation 207/2012. Permission is limited and anything ending up with a patient has to be provided with paper, but this might give an idea of how it might develop for ITE, especially with internet provision.
Best regards, Paul Paul Lovell Compliance Engineer Cisco International Limited plov...@cisco.com<mailto:plov...@cisco.com> Phone: +44 (0) 208 824 4843 Mobile: +44 (0) 775 843 1260 From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 10:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Mike, Electronic labelling has always been unpopular with some of the European market surveillance groups and therefore considered forbidden. To the point that the industry was given the impression that electronic CE Marking would never happen in Europe. It seems that the European Commission did not agree fully with the interpretation because the new Radio Equipment Directive does include text which should open the door for electronic labelling of certain devices, such as devices with an integral screen, in the future. I hope we should get more information from the European Commission on this, as the guidance comes in for the Radio Equipment Directive. There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. People have said to me: “Why would that be needed for a phone etc., because it cannot actually transmit until it is charged anyway, by which time the user can see the CE Mark!” ….but, it’s important to remember that the CE Mark includes safety and EMC, so the user should not be plugging a device into a mains charger if they have not yet seen the CE Mark. ☺ Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: 01 August 2014 19:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs & American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, "McDiarmid, Ralph" <ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com<mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com>> wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? _______________________________________________________________________________ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com<mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com> | Site:Site: www.SEsolar.com<http://www.sesolar.com/> From: Mike Violette <mi...@acbcert.com<mailto:mi...@acbcert.com>> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? ________________________________ Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the "world" in general. 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