Hi Pete,

Thank you for your comments.

We are already using IEC 62368-1 but our customers are asking us, what is the 
status in China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan etc. I hope this list has a members of 
national technical committees in listed countries, who can give us more 
detailed info. Like Tsing answered for China.

Do you know when hybrid TRF will be available?

Best regards,
Bostjan





From: Pete Perkins [mailto:peperkin...@cs.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:08 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

Bostjan, et al,

                It is hard to know when the transition to 62368 will be 
completed country by country since the internal work to implement the new 
standard is done independently of the IEC work.  In North America and Europe 
the work has been carried on in parallel and the implementation is a fait 
accompli (considering the National Deviations) when the IEC standard is 
completed.

                Countries will, for the most part, accept the new standard the 
way the standard is written - adding National Deviations as needed (which will 
be similar to the ND's already applied to the fading standards).

                Finally, it has been noted, that the new 62368 standard is not 
a static document, the TC is continuing to work on it to address issues that 
have been raised, including some new issues which were not previously 
addressed.  Remember that the prior standards, especially 60950, never remained 
static for any long period of time; for 25 years or so it was always under 
review and revision.

                What is known with more certainty is the DOW for the present 
standards (60065 and 60950)  is 2019 (a generous conversion timeline for 
manufacturers).   Further, the countries which now accept the present standards 
certifications know that these standards are beyond the 'keeping up to date' 
stage by the IEC TC 108 committee (which has been public knowledge for some 
time).

                From a test house perspective for those working in any country 
which will need to replace the certification process from the present standards 
with the new standard there is need to start looking at the new standard to 
begin to understand how it deals with the usual issues and whether or not the 
review and test process will have to be changed in any significant way.

                Some test houses have been accepting evaluation projects for 
some time and are developing experienced staff in 62368 evaluation.

                The TRF for 62368-1 has been available for some time and it 
will be updated as needed to support changes in the standard.   Even tho this 
discussion has been presented in a neutral way, there are significant changes 
in evaluation and testing procedure needed for the new standard and the sooner 
the group starts on looking at it the better prepared they will be for 
implementing it when a manufacturer comes in the door and asks for their 
product to be evaluated and certified to the new standard.

                From a manufacturers perspective it is important to begin 
looking at the new standard in light of current design practices.  The review 
of a product against the new requirements will highlight areas where the 
requirements are changed in a way that might affect the design and will have to 
be fundamentally reviewed plus areas where the present standards do not cover 
the requirements fully so conformance of the present product is unknown.

                Some manufacturers are already having their safety team 
reviewing products against the new standard to identify the areas of concern 
and put plans in place to move the design practices into compliance with the 
new standard.

                In summary, knowing the dates for which each variant of 62368 
will be needed to fully organize the certification of any product for worldwide 
distribution with the proper certifications completed.  Waiting until they are 
issued is way too late to be able to provide 62368 certified product broadly, 
in my opinion.

:>)     br,     Pete

Peter E Perkins, PE
Principal Product Safety Engineer
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Dear experts,

Does anyone know what is the current situation with acceptance of new hazard 
based standard worldwide. As far as I know, EN 62368-1 is harmonized standard 
in EU and UL 62368-1 in US/CAN. What about other countries, what is the plan 
there?

In particular I am interested in China, Japan, Australia, Korea, Taiwan, 
Argentina.

Thank you for your support.

Best regards,


Boštjan Glavič
Laboratory of Electronic Engineering
Head of Laboratory
SIQ Ljubljana, Tržaška cesta 2
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
T: + 386 (0)1 47 78 265
F: + 386 (0)1 47 78 444
E-Mail: bostjan.gla...@siq.si<mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>



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