Hi Pete, Thank you for your comments.
We are already using IEC 62368-1 but our customers are asking us, what is the status in China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan etc. I hope this list has a members of national technical committees in listed countries, who can give us more detailed info. Like Tsing answered for China. Do you know when hybrid TRF will be available? Best regards, Bostjan From: Pete Perkins [mailto:peperkin...@cs.com] Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:08 AM To: Boštjan Glavič; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] IEC 62368-1 Bostjan, et al, It is hard to know when the transition to 62368 will be completed country by country since the internal work to implement the new standard is done independently of the IEC work. In North America and Europe the work has been carried on in parallel and the implementation is a fait accompli (considering the National Deviations) when the IEC standard is completed. Countries will, for the most part, accept the new standard the way the standard is written - adding National Deviations as needed (which will be similar to the ND's already applied to the fading standards). Finally, it has been noted, that the new 62368 standard is not a static document, the TC is continuing to work on it to address issues that have been raised, including some new issues which were not previously addressed. Remember that the prior standards, especially 60950, never remained static for any long period of time; for 25 years or so it was always under review and revision. What is known with more certainty is the DOW for the present standards (60065 and 60950) is 2019 (a generous conversion timeline for manufacturers). Further, the countries which now accept the present standards certifications know that these standards are beyond the 'keeping up to date' stage by the IEC TC 108 committee (which has been public knowledge for some time). From a test house perspective for those working in any country which will need to replace the certification process from the present standards with the new standard there is need to start looking at the new standard to begin to understand how it deals with the usual issues and whether or not the review and test process will have to be changed in any significant way. Some test houses have been accepting evaluation projects for some time and are developing experienced staff in 62368 evaluation. The TRF for 62368-1 has been available for some time and it will be updated as needed to support changes in the standard. Even tho this discussion has been presented in a neutral way, there are significant changes in evaluation and testing procedure needed for the new standard and the sooner the group starts on looking at it the better prepared they will be for implementing it when a manufacturer comes in the door and asks for their product to be evaluated and certified to the new standard. From a manufacturers perspective it is important to begin looking at the new standard in light of current design practices. The review of a product against the new requirements will highlight areas where the requirements are changed in a way that might affect the design and will have to be fundamentally reviewed plus areas where the present standards do not cover the requirements fully so conformance of the present product is unknown. Some manufacturers are already having their safety team reviewing products against the new standard to identify the areas of concern and put plans in place to move the design practices into compliance with the new standard. In summary, knowing the dates for which each variant of 62368 will be needed to fully organize the certification of any product for worldwide distribution with the proper certifications completed. Waiting until they are issued is way too late to be able to provide 62368 certified product broadly, in my opinion. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org<mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> _ _ _ _ _ Dear experts, Does anyone know what is the current situation with acceptance of new hazard based standard worldwide. As far as I know, EN 62368-1 is harmonized standard in EU and UL 62368-1 in US/CAN. What about other countries, what is the plan there? In particular I am interested in China, Japan, Australia, Korea, Taiwan, Argentina. Thank you for your support. 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