Dave
Thats the sort of information source to which I was alluding so its probably what Amund should refer to. John Allen W.London, UK From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 13 August 2015 13:06 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed .... You can also refer to UL 969 for requirements of adhesive-attached labels for use as permanent nameplates. -Dave From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:34 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed .... Morning Following on from Charlies points below, if you have a NTRL listing, then (generally?) that NRTL will make sure that the rating label is physically suitable for the intended use and environment (UL would require a suitably Recognized labelling system label for a separate label) and therefore I would have thought that that would be adequate grounds for claiming that it would also meet the FCC requirements in question by default. John Allen W.London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 13 August 2015 08:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed .... Amund The FCC dont routinely check labels in the same way that some NRTLs do, so theres no approved label. The FCC label should be as well affixed as your rating label and other compliance marks - many products integrate them onto the same label or silk-screen them onto the product Regards Charlie From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 13 August 2015 07:45 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed .... FCC CFR 47 §15.19 Labelling requirements: The label shall not be a stick-on, paper label. The label on these products shall be permanently affixed to the product and shall be readily visible to the purchaser at the time of purchase, as described in §2.925(d) of this chapter. Permanently affixed means that the label is etched, engraved, stamped, silkscreened, indelibly printed, or otherwise permanently marked on a permanently attached part of the equipment or on a nameplate of metal, plastic, or other material fastened to the equipment by welding, riveting, or a permanent adhesive. The label must be designed to last the expected lifetime of the equipment in the environment in which the equipment may be operated and must not be readily detachable. My interpretation: Stick-on, paper label is a label with paper surface. Such type of label can be damaged when exposed to humidity, water, etc. I have a lot of devices (here at the office) with FCC label and many of them have stick-on labels. But, they have plastic, vinyl, etc surface. Such a label will be more resistant than a paper label. But still its a stick-on label. In my opinion, it will be good enough to use a stick-on plastic label with permanent adhesive. The last question can be «what is permanent adhesive?». Any comments? Best regards Amund - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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