Hi David Agreed re intrinsic value.
The EU in particular has been that way ever since the EMC and LV directives impose new requirements (harmonized stds) on arbitrary dates for continued supply of product lines. Energy efficiency is becoming another with, I hear, plans for a level VII. John From: Dave Heald [mailto:emcp...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 November 2015 22:48 To: Pearson, John Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Updating EU ErP reports for Level VI adapters? Hi John, Agreed. EMC & Safety reports should be updated as applicable as these could have meaningful changes in performance. I was mostly focusing on the need for updated ErP (Energy related Products) reports, as they solely deal with energy efficiency & the Level VI change is to move to more efficient supplies. It would seem that if I'm meeting the requirements with a less efficient EPS, that re-testing to qualify a more efficient EPS is simply a bureaucratic exercise that has little intrinsic value & just costs me money and time to re-test my entire product line. Best Regards, -David On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Pearson, John <john.pear...@polycom.com<mailto:john.pear...@polycom.com>> wrote: Hi Change of PSU to VI could affect EMC performance Radiated and Conducted as well as Immunity for the wacky places that insist on this (EEA etc). You need representative results for these requirements (i.e. test reports with the correct/representative PSU) John From: Rodney Davis [mailto:rodney.da...@mitel.com<mailto:rodney.da...@mitel.com>] Sent: 03 November 2015 21:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Updating EU ErP reports for Level VI adapters? I would say that the limits are being exceeded, hence a manufactures technical letter of explanation in support of your DoC is sufficient ! No test required. Test data must be available though to support your technical judgement? Rodney Davis ________________________________ From: Dave Heald <emcp...@gmail.com<mailto:emcp...@gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 4:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] Updating EU ErP reports for Level VI adapters? (apologies if this is a re-post - it's not showing on my mail.google.com<http://mail.google.com> inbox, so I'm assuming it didn't go through the first time around) All, Do you think it's necessary to update EU ErP reports when transitioning from a Level V to a Level VI adapter? Or would an explanatory statement suffice? Technically our products are HiNA anyway, so that further reduces our compliance burden, but even without that consideration it would be nice to explain this away in my compliance folder rather than to pay for re-testing & new reports for all of our products. Thoughts & feedback appreciated! Best Regards, -David Heald Regulatory Engineer / Project Manager Cradlepoint - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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