Hi Kim Its a interesting issue, but as a general guide I would apply the standard that is most applicable. IEC 62133 covers the requirements for batteries, if its not included in the LV directive, and there is not a better standard listed under that directive, or other applicable directive for your final product, I would recommend using it. If the final product is not covered by the normal product directives, and covered by the General product safety directive, which I think says you should use the most applicable standard for the product, which bumps you back to IEC 62133. Legally if there is not one listed in the OJs and you have one that is state of the Art and deals with the risks and hazards appropriately, its legal to use that to support your claim of Compliance. And I would agree with you that battery devices are still not clearly covered leading to questions like yours. Regards Darren.
On Tuesday, 8 March 2016, 13:18, Kim Boll Jensen <k...@bolls.dk> wrote: <!--#yiv9273477584 _filtered #yiv9273477584 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9273477584 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9273477584 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv9273477584 #yiv9273477584 p.yiv9273477584MsoNormal, #yiv9273477584 li.yiv9273477584MsoNormal, #yiv9273477584 div.yiv9273477584MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";}#yiv9273477584 a:link, #yiv9273477584 span.yiv9273477584MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9273477584 a:visited, #yiv9273477584 span.yiv9273477584MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9273477584 p.yiv9273477584MsoAcetate, #yiv9273477584 li.yiv9273477584MsoAcetate, #yiv9273477584 div.yiv9273477584MsoAcetate {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";}#yiv9273477584 span.yiv9273477584MarkeringsbobletekstTegn {font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";}#yiv9273477584 span.yiv9273477584EmailStyle19 {font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:windowtext;}#yiv9273477584 .yiv9273477584MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv9273477584 {margin:3.0cm 2.0cm 3.0cm 2.0cm;}#yiv9273477584 div.yiv9273477584WordSection1 {}-->Hi all Regarding especially Li-ion batteries and rechargeable batteries in general. Battery equipment is not directly under LVD, but under 2001/95/EC General Product Safety directive we have EN 60950 and EN 60065, which includes safety of batteries, for some products but also excludes amongst other battery backup units. But what about power-banks which in many cases have a USB connector for charging amongst other Smartphone's. How do we define safety requirements for the battery here? There are also other products such as Seg Boards/Balanceboards which seem to be under the Machinery Directive, but still not under electrical safety requirements. How do we find requirements for the battery in these products. IEC 62133 is used under the CB scheme and a EN version have been issued, but under which directive? Several LVD standards requires that if a battery is used it shall be tested according to EN/IEC 62133, but if the product is not under LVD how do this standard end as a legal requirement? For me it seems that battery products have been forgotten in the EU safety requirements, or not so clearly addressed. Please any comment on this is very welcome. Best regards, Kim Boll - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org>All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.htmlAttachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.htmlFor help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org>For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>