With best wishes OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:50 PM To: 'Scott Xe' <scott...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 If a standard normatively references a second standard without a date, then you apply the latest published edition of the second standard. If the normative reference is dated, you apply the dated edition whether it has been updated or even withdrawn (in error – it should not have been withdrawn). If a standard listed in the OJ normatively references a second standard, it does not matter if the second standard is, or is not, listed in the OJ. With best wishes OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Scott & Matt, Thanks for your information. Should we consider in this way that for product scope in EN 60065 or 60950-1, the effective date should follow the publication in OJEU and for batteries, DOW of 10/01/2016 is applied as per standard stated. Currently EN 62133 is not included in LVD or GPSD - of course we cannot find any reference from OJEU. On 27 April 2016 at 23:35, Scott Aldous <scottald...@google.com <mailto:scottald...@google.com> > wrote: See the last paragraph of the Austrian National Foreword in this preview <https://shop.austrian-standards.at/Preview.action;jsessionid=6309A0F60DB57CF4295DE51A402136B7?preview=&dokkey=507572&selectedLocale=en> . I didn't see a similar note in other country national forewards that I could find. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Matt, Where did you get dow of 10/01/2016? Thanks and regards, Scott Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Larkin, Matthew [mailto:matthew.lar...@tuv-sud.co.uk <mailto:matthew.lar...@tuv-sud.co.uk> ] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:54 PM To: Leber, Jody (Suwanee); EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Hi Jody
The dow date is 2016-01-10; so 10th January 2016 for EN62133 for conflicting National standards to be withdrawn. Best Regards Matthew Sent from my Windows Phone From: Leber, Jody (Suwanee) <mailto:jody.le...@sgs.com> Sent: 26/04/2016 17:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Hi Scott, I actually thought the dow was in October. Where did you see the July date? I do not believe it is any Directive as most batteries are outside of the scope of the LVD. You will find in end product standards and it is required for CB Scheme. 8.3.9: Design evaluation – Forced internal short circuit only applies to Korea, Japan, Switzerland and France. It is not clear about the enforcement of 8.3.9, because that is country difference. Can it be enforced for the EU? Best Regards, Jody Leber Consumer and Retail Global Battery and Accumulator Technical Manager Battery and Performance Laboratory Manager Direct: 770.570.1838 <tel:770.570.1838> Main: 770.570.1800 <tel:770.570.1800> Mobile: 678.469.9835 <tel:678.469.9835> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > -- Scott Aldous Compliance Engineer Google 650-253-1994 <tel:650-253-1994> scottald...@google.com <mailto:scottald...@google.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
