So Pete, regarding that Electric Fork, exactly which side of the plate did it belong? Left or right, next to the knife or spoon?? I could never figure that one out & my better half loves to point it out ☺ Had to ask, it’s Friday…
From: Pete Perkins [mailto:00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 1:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk? Mike, et al, Is latching-up failure an allowed failure mode under the test standard? Seems to me, even if it allowed if the equipment stops working (reporting or whatever the radio does) that this would be a high level of frustration for the user. So why bother to include the radio if it doesn’t do anything? (Reminds me of the Electric Fork offered long ago as a companion piece to the Electric Knife; it didn’t do anything but looked good, cord and all, alongside the Electric Knife.) :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 p.perk...@ieee.org<mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> From: Mike Sherman ----- Original Message ----- [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 10:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk? I never got an answer on this forum, but NBs tell me that the end product must be tested to the new limits. For one of my end products, this resulted in RI testing from 3-6 GHz. In the case where my end product only has passive components, or where I don't care if it latches up, I question whether this is a good use of my company's funds. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Chester Summers To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Sent: June 9, 2017 at 12:29 PM Subject: RE: RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk? Dear group, did anyone ever answer Mike’s question for his ZigBee device? I’ve got the same question, but I’m using a Bluetooth radio. Is a completed radio product required by the RED to be tested for radiated immunity to 6 GHz? In other words, must the finished product match RI considerations of the radio? Is this “in addition to” the product family standard, which may only prescribe RI to 3GHz? Thank you, Chet Summers From: Mike Sherman ----- Original Message ----- [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:20 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk? Esteemed colleagues: I've got what I'm told is a fully RED compliant ZigBee module that goes into equipment that I'm told now must be immunity tested to 6 GHz the RED (the chip reportedly already passes). Connections to my equipment are data and power. We have no experience immunity testing the equipment from 3 to 6 Ghz. I'm trying to assess my risk as I wait for lab time to open up. QUESTION: has anyone had immunity problems in other than radio modules in the 3-6 GHz range? How common? Were they found in certain constructions or components? thanks again to all, Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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