For some years, whatever is finally agreed, UK will observe the same
docopocoss as Europe. After that period, UK might set its own
docopocoss, but almost certainly won't do that without a very good
reason (e.g. if UK decides that the new standard is required to be
applied urgently, or more time is required for industry to adapt to the
new standard).
Docopocoss = Date of cessation of presumption of conformity of
superseded standard. This is the only date that actually matters in
terms of complying with the associated Directive or Regulation.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-09-12 04:38, Scott Xe wrote:
John,
After Brexit, is there a body like European Forward or OJEU to set up
the in-force date and deadline to replace the current standard for a
new or revised standard? It is a similar situation of UK standard
before joining EU?
Regards,
Scott
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 17:17, John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk
<mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> wrote:
Since BSI will still be a member of CENELEC and CEN (and ETSI),
the European Foreword will still be included. It's a 'standards
body' element, not something inserted by the European Commission.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-09-11 10:07, Scott Xe wrote:
John,
Thanks for your advice! When will we use the National Forward?
After Brexit, the European Forward may not exist in BS standard,
will the National Forward take place instead?
Best regards,
Scott
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 00:41, John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk
<mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> wrote:
It is not a correct interpretation of 'no transition period'.
The European Foreword is correct, except that in rare cases,
the European Commission sets a different date from that set
by CENELEC, in which case the Commission's date applies.
Your last sentence is correct. Docopocoss rules!
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-09-10 17:15, Scott Xe wrote:
I have a query about the transition period in BS EN standard
and seeking advice how to correctly interpret the transition
period based on the EU normal application.
For example of BS EN 60086-4 2019
In European Forward of the standard, the dop is 2020-02-28
and dow 2022-05-30. Transition period is 32 months for
adopting both old and new standards in parallel. The
revised standard must be published no later than 2020-02-28
and the deadline to replace the old standard with the new
one is 2022-05-30.
In National Forward of BS EN IEC standard, BS EN IEC 60086-4
2019 supersedes BS EN 60086-04 2015, which is withdrawn. In
the UK, the old standard is replaced with the new standard
as soon as it is published. Is it a correct interpretation
of no transition period? It seems to be not in line with
above European level and below harmonized standards which
both have transition periods. In addition, the
implementation dates may vary by each member state of EU
causing unnecessary confusion.
For harmonized standards, we have to follow the first
publication OJ and Date of cessation of presumption of
conformity of superseded standard in OJEU regardless of
above application dates in standard.
Thanks and regards,
Scott
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