Yes!!! Doug Sent from my iPhone IPhone: 408-858-4528 Office: 702-570-6108 Email: d...@dsmith.org Website: http://dsmith.org ________________________________ From: IBM Ken <ibm...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:56:32 PM To: doug emcesd.com <d...@emcesd.com> Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org> Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC regulatory statements
Hi Doug- Are you referring to CONELRAD which mandated that all transmitters go off the air (except for certain 640 and 1240hz MW broadcast stations which rotated to confuse enemy RDF) in the event of a Soviet attack on the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD -Ken A On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:53 PM doug emcesd.com<http://emcesd.com> <d...@emcesd.com<mailto:d...@emcesd.com>> wrote: Hi John, The radio listening law was around many decades ago. Usually we just had a #47 pilot lamp on a radio instead of the speaker to know when the station went off the air. At that point, one was to listen on 640 or 1240 kHz. Only required of ham radio operators. That went away decades ago. I like that for most equipment there are no immunity requirements in the US. The market is a very strong force and will eliminate companies whose equipment does not work in its environment. The standards should be there but not required. I buy stuff from overseas that I know is not likely to pass all the immunity tests, but I do not care. I ascertain if it will work for what I want. I would rather not pay for testing I do not need. Large companies, on the other hand, may want to protect themselves from their suppliers by citing standards to be applied. But that should be up to them, not the government. Doug [SYMBOL] From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk<mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 13:37 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC regulatory statements Precisely. That's bureaucracy for you. Isn't there also a US law that requires you to listen on a radio for Homeland Security broadcasts? Everyone is guilty of something. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-10-31 20:24, Richard Nute wrote: “This device complies with part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation” Hmm. So, if the device causes harmful interference, operation is prohibited (1). And, if the device accepts interference that causes undesired operation, operation is prohibited (2). A CFL causes undesirable interference with my radio. So, operation of both the CFL and radio is prohibited. Is my interpretation correct? Best regards, Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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