I believe that Clause 4.1 of EN 62479:2010 specifically states route A can be considers as inherently compliant for ITE that do not contain radio transmitters.
From Ken Shadoff > On Oct 2, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Dan Roman > <00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > So a Class B emissions report, provided the product is not an intentional > radiator I guess, would be enough for due diligence to show compliance. Put > a note to that effect referencing the Class B report and it appears to me you > should be good to go. > > Dan > > From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 3:00 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] EMF harmonised standards > > Brian > > It’s required by Annex I of the LVD: > > 2. Protection against hazards arising from the electrical equipment > Measures of a technical nature shall be laid down in accordance with point 1, > in order to ensure that: > (b) temperatures, arcs or radiation which would cause a danger, are not > produced; > > And clarified by § 55 of the LVD Guide > > Under CE marking, the Directive gives the requirement, a Harmonised Standard > just provides one way of demonstrating compliance with that requirement > > CENELEC TC106X is the relevant standards committee, and there are LVD > Harmonised standards for non-radio equipment such as EN 62233:2008 for > Household Appliances and EN 62493:2010 for lighting equipment > > Also, it should be remembered that ISM equipment such as Welding Equipment > can generate very high levels of RF energy > > That said, a quick back of an envelope calculation: > > The EMC class B limit below 1 GHz averages at around 45 dBuV/m at 3m, which > equates to a transmitter at approximately -50 dBm or 10 pW. > > To keep the maths simple and using a RBW of 100 kHz for the emissions > measurement: a power density of 10 pW/100kHz is 0.1 mW/GHz, so a device that > emitted “unintentional” EMC at the Class B limit continuously from 30 MHz to > 1 GHz, would only be radiating approx 0.1 mW against a safe limit of 20 > mW/10g of tissue (2W/kg) > > So, you do need to consider EMF for any product under the LVD, but you might > decide that EMC compliance was one way of showing that your product did not > generate dangerous amounts of electromagnetic field > > Best regards > Charlie > > Charlie Blackham > Sulis Consultants Ltd > Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 > Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > From: Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com> > Sent: 01 October 2020 16:30 > To: Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> > Cc: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org > Subject: Re: [PSES] EMF harmonised standards > > When do you know if a product needs to be tested to these standards or not? > What requires this testing? Is there a criteria that can be used? Does the > SCOPE of these standards make it clear if and when the standards need to be > applied to a product? We have had customers request it but most electronic > equipment doesn't put out enough magnetic or electromagnetic fields to even > make it onto the graph? Seems like a waste of time for most electronics > unless they incorporate high current or high power RF transmitters. > > Brian > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 2:18 AM Charlie Blackham > <char...@sulisconsultants.com> wrote: > Scott > > There no “solid guidance” > > EN 50663:2017 is a much more recent standard and makes reference to both EN > 62311:2008 and EN 62479:2010 for assessment, but does not allow use of EN > 62479 table B.1 for using higher transmit powers for values of Pmax > > Best regards > Charlie > > Charlie Blackham > Sulis Consultants Ltd > Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 > Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > From: Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> > Sent: 30 September 2020 14:53 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] EMF harmonised standards > > I notice EN 62311 is commonly used for electrical appliances. 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