Thank you to all who responded!. BR, Andy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:46 AM CATHERINE PEARSON < 00000b0df63784fb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I totally agree, this is the approach that we taking. > > > I believe for products that are covered by a self declaration, its still > fairly unchanged. > > A suitable test report from a lab should be acceptable regardless of the > country etc. > > > For myself its medical products, you have the MDD / MDR change and that's > still being worked on and is late ! > > > But its still fairly straight forward if you embraced the change. > > > Regards Darren. > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Peter J. Knight" <peter.kni...@grain.at> > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Sent: Monday, 21 Jun, 21 At 09:21 > Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? > > Hi Darren, > > Further to Charlie’s comments, here is an additional angle: > > Corresponding to the EU’s citation of harmonised standards in the Official > Journal of the EU (OJEU) that give a presumption of conformity, the UK now > maintains a comparable list of “Designated Standards” that can be reached > from here <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/designated-standards>. > > You will find that for each discipline (EMC, electrical safety etc) the > lists of designated standards are pretty much identical to the harmonised > standards published in the OJEU. > > So a test reports to such shared standards give a presumption of > conformity for both EU and UK markets. If the lists diverge in the future, > then in affected cases this commonality may no longer hold. > > Best regards, > > Peter > > *From:* Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> > *Sent:* 19 June 2021 20:48 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? > > Darren > > The “Conformity Assessment Body” is the Notified Body (EU) of Competent > Body (UK) > > This advice isn’t as clearly written as it could be – that last sentence > has nothing to do with product testing or test labs > > Best regards > > Charlie > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://sulisconsultants.com/> * > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > *From:* Darren @ Vitesses <vites...@btinternet.com> > *Sent:* 19 June 2021 13:20 > *To:* Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> > *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? > > Hi Charles > > Can you explain your last sentence, “ the conformity assessment bodies > that test them need to be different” > > From my understanding a test lab can test to mutiple country standards and > results used, ssuming its self declaration . > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Jun 2021, at 12:44, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> > wrote: > > > > Andy > > > some folks are asking for a UK test report > > Some folks are confused then 😊 > > > https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain > > *Using both the CE and UKCA marking* > > Both the CE and UKCA mark can be placed on a product so long as neither > impedes the visibility of the other and requirements of both the GB and EU > legislation are met. > > The essential requirements and standards that can be used to demonstrate > conformity with them for UKCA marked goods have not changed. That means > that if your good is currently made to the technical requirements necessary > for CE marking then it will be made to the same technical requirements that > exist for UKCA marking. However, the conformity assessment bodies that test > them may need to be different. > > Best regards > > Charlie > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://sulisconsultants.com/> * > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > *From:* worldwideemc <worldwide...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 18 June 2021 19:57 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? > > Hi Darren, > > Thank you for the information. It makes sense that the CE report should be > sufficient but some folks are asking for a UK test report. I believe I'm > not the only one confused on this topic. > > BR, > > Andy > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:38 AM Darren @ Vitesses < > vites...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hi Andy > > Yes > > If the reports show you meet the relevant standards that would be fine > > But also many international standards are the same, eg the Aus/NZS > standard has a different name but the set up and limits are identical. > > So a report to thoes standards would support a claim of compliance to the > en standards regardless of the country. > > I would recommend drawing up a document explaining the reasoning behind > it. > > Regards Darren > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 18 Jun 2021, at 18:28, worldwideemc <worldwide...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > Can I use my European EMC test report to claim compliance to UK > regulations? I understand I need to generate a UKCA DoC and apply the UKCA > marking. > > The UK designated standards list at the link below lists EN standards > without any reference to a British Standard... > > > https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/942100/ds-0007-21-emc-notice.pdf > . > > Any input from the list experts would be appreciated! > > > -- > > BR, > Andy Parker > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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