Thank you everyone. As always, very informative. -Doug
Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 9:05 PM Bill Owsley < 000000f5a03f18eb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > And if asked to provide evidence, documents, etc backing up the > declaration, there will be a limited time to do so. > Management might take the position to get the doc's when asked, and hope > that they are indeed in compliance. > The consequence can be banned from the market for a period. > That happened due to a manufacturing defect and insufficient quality > control to detect the defect. > Near a year to correct and demonstrate compliance before getting off the > ban. > > So nothing moves into our distribution control without solid evidence of > compliance. > A letter from an importer does not suffice, but if often offered. > Even a big time manufacturer has offered to print anything we want on the > label. > > > > On Thursday, December 16, 2021, 3:30:12 PM EST, John Woodgate < > j...@woodjohn.uk> wrote: > > > My advice is always cite, because Mr. Militant Customs Man can challenge > your import because there is no proof on the DoC that you have taken all > the amendments into account. You don't need to list every amendment; 'and > all amendments up to the date of dispatch' should be enough. > > ====================================================================================== > Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > Istae nunc praetereunt nisi non ubicumque > > > > On 2021-12-16 20:23, Charlie Blackham wrote: > > Doug > > > > It’s not required – the applicable Directive is still 2011/65/EU > > > > 2015/863 Directive amended it…….as did 60 or so Commission Delegated > Directives > > > > Whether you like it or not, declaring compliance to RoHS means that you > are declaring compliance with RoHS, as amended, with applicable permitted > exemptions if permitted, at the time of signing. > > > > Lots of people like ask to see it on the DoC, so I agree that it won’t > hurt, probably isn’t “wrong”, but also is not “required” > > > > You do not however declare compliance to RoHS III (it doesn’t exist) > > > > Best regards > > Charlie > > > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://sulisconsultants.com/> * > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > > > *From:* John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> <j...@woodjohn.uk> > *Sent:* 16 December 2021 20:19 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC? > > > > It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not allowed, > but I don't think this is one of them. > > > ====================================================================================== > Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > Istae nunc praetereunt nisi non ubicumque > > > On 2021-12-16 19:48, Douglas E Powell wrote: > > All, > > > > Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU) > 2015/863, is it now necessary to reference the amendment on the Declaration > of Conformity? > > > > This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears terminology used > by the unwashed masses. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > -Doug > > > > > > Douglas E Powell > > Laporte, Colorado USA > > doug...@gmail.com > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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