Hello Gents, In my understanding, having your assembly certified to R10 will allow one to replace a competitor’s certified assembly in a vehicle without further test of the vehicle.
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Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Patrick Lawler <plawl...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 5:59 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UN Regulations for Vehicles CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi David, Thank you. Upon further digging, I realized the new set of regulations came about when I wasn't involved in regulatory issues. Normally, I would have known about the changes. We'll be selling a subassembly to a vehicle manufacturer. Although they may want test results, I don't think certification is something we'll be dealing with. Good to know, regardless. Have a good week, Patrick On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 4:21 PM David Schaefer <david.schae...@element.com<mailto:david.schae...@element.com>> wrote: Hi Patrick, That is what is more commonly known as UN ECE Regulation 10, or Reg 10.05 (fifth edition). For EMC it has pretty much replaced the EU directive (2004/104/EC being the most recent) for EMC for automobiles. Since it is a UN doc more than just the EU are signed onto it – I don’t have the list in front of me, but I think AS/NZS, South Korea, and South Africa may use it among others. I don’t know their regulatory requirements though. One of the biggest things to be aware of – immunity related devices as defined in the regulation require certification – no self declaration like for CE. You need a Technical Service as designated by an Approval Authority. Each country has an Approval Authority – e.g. NSAI in Ireland, Ministry of Transpot in the Czech Republic, etc. Testing has to be witnessed by someone approved by a Technical Service, and post test there is certification paperwork – conformity of production is a big deal and covered in a clause in ECE R10. 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DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact IT Service Desk if you are in any doubt about this email. Good Friday afternoon, I’m reviewing a customer specification for EMC requirements for the battery charger used in their electric vehicle. They’re calling out a document that sounds official, yet I have not heard of before. With the emblem of the United Nations on the title page, the title is: ‘Concerning the Adoption of Harmonized Technical United Nations Regulations for Wheeled Vehicles, Equipment and Parts which can be Fitted and/or be Used on Wheeled Vehicles and the Conditions for Reciprocal Recognition of Approvals Granted on the Basis of these United Nations Regulations’ The document number is ‘E/ECE/324/Add.9/Rev.5/Amend.2’, and a copy can be found at: https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/2019/E-ECE-324-Add.9-Rev.5-Amend.2.pdf Has anyone worked with this before? 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